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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    The House vote is a lock. The house is gathering information to present to the senate when they impeach. They are talking to Trump insiders every day. Bolton,Trump and Rudy are squabbling in public. The people inside the admin are telling all.
    It is all falling apart for the Thief in Chief.
    Well the democrat party has had three failed attempts at impeaching President Trump so...............

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    Really? What 3 are those? The House is involved in the first and only impeachment investigation. It has not finished yet.

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    Time to update the guess columns.

    Feels Like A horror movie

    It is encouraging to hear Republican Senators taking this matter seriously, and not rushing to blindly defend the President.

    WashPo


    "“I’m a juror and I’m comfortable not speaking,” Sen. James E. Risch (R-Idaho) said. Pressed again for comment, he reiterated, “I said I’m comfortable not speaking.”" Let's take him out of the NO column and put him in the MAYBE column.

    "“I’d be a juror, so I have no comment,” Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) said. " He also comes out of the NO column and moves to the MAYBE column.

    8 Republican Senators initially refused to sign on to Lindsey Graham's resolution condemning the House process. Let's put them in the YES column (if they are not already there,) shall we?

    " One was Romney, which perhaps isn’t surprising.
    Two were the GOP senators facing reelection in blue states: Collins and Cory Gardner of Colorado.
    The list included three of the four GOP senators who are retiring: Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, Mike Enzi of Wyoming and Johnny Isakson of Georgia (the last of whom is expected to resign at the end of the year and may not be around to vote in an impeachment trial).
    The other two were Murkowski, an occasional holdout in situations like these, and Rob Portman (Ohio), whose place on this list might be the most interesting."

    (We'll leave Alexander in the MAYBE column because we previously had reason to have him in the NO column.)

    These tweaks leave us with:

    NO:
    Rick Scott FL
    Mike Braun IN
    Roger Wicker MS
    Cindy Hyde-Smith MS
    John Hoeven ND
    Kevin Cramer ND
    Marsha Blackburn TN
    John Barrasso WY
    Rand Paul KY
    Tom Cotton AR
    John Thune SD



    YES:
    Mitt Romney UT
    Richard Burr NC
    Susan Collins ME
    Mike Lee UT
    Lisa Murkowski AK
    Martha McSally AZ
    Cory Gardner CO
    Marco Rubio FL
    Todd Young IN
    Joni Ernst IA
    Jerry Moran KA
    Ben Sasse NE
    Rob Portman OH
    Mike Enzi WY
    Johnny Isakson GA


    MAYBE:
    Richard Shelby AL
    Mike Crapo ID
    Bill Cassidy LA
    John Kennedy LA
    Josh Hawley MO
    Thom Tillis NC
    Tim Scott SC
    Shelly Moore Capito WV
    Dan Sullivan AK
    Pat Roberts KA
    Steve Daines MT
    Deb Fischer NE
    Jim Inhofe OK
    John Boozman AR
    Mike Rounds SD
    David Perdue GA
    James Lankford OK
    Ted Cruz TX
    Chuck Grassley IA
    Mitch McConnell KY
    Ron Johnson WI
    Lindsey Graham SC
    Roy Blunt MO
    John Cornyn TX
    Pat Toomey PA
    Jim Risch ID
    Lamar Alexander TN

    "“I thought the president made a big mistake by asking China to get involved in investigating a political opponent,” Collins told Bangor Daily News. “It’s completely inappropriate.”"
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Trump Is Just 6 Votes Away From Impeachment
    Democrats still don't have the votes???!!! I thought this was a slam dunk? But alas, all the posturing, the clown show, the lunacy and idiocy that is the Democratic Party of the Jackass will come crashing down in the Senate.

    You will never get the 20 votes needed to convict Trump and kick him out of office. He will win re-election and be your President for 4 more years. Will you kill yourself? I hope? Self deport to some Socialist utopia like Venezuela or Cuba?

    Carry on.
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    WEll, no Big Giant Impeachment Vote yet, not even close, just more noise and inneundo, and now their Big Giant Whistleblower turns out to be just another candidate for perjury charges, backtracking after the Big Giant Secret Impeachment Committees failed to fabricate any evidence of criminal activities, as usual. Inducing perjury is all they have left in that scam.

    Democrats lost any credibility they had a long time ago as we all know, so they really have nothing to lose any more at this point but more treason and fraud, so we will just have to ignore them except when we need a few laughs. Their Party is sunk, their racists are will soon be at each other's throats as the Democrats 'pivot' to pandering to criminal illegal aliens at the expense of back constituents now, relying on their racial replacement agenda and a massive illegal alien vote to rescue them from the certain defeat they face in 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Trump doesn't care if the vote to impeach. The resultant trial in the Senate will expose the Deep State players, and then he wins.

    I don't see a scenario where the 'rats win on this. They obviously never thought it through.

    Maybe Trump set it all up for them to destroy themselves this way.
    Bingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    "At some point in 2019 (if not sooner) a Republican Senator may walk into the Oval Office and say to President Trump: "Mr. President, we don't have the votes," at which point the Trump presidency will end in a resignation or a conviction in the Senate.

    This scenario actually occurred forty-three years ago this summer when Republican Senator Barry Goldwater walked into the Oval Office and told Republican President Richard Nixon that they didn't have the votes in the Senate to save his presidency.

    Following impeachment in the House, a trial takes place in the Senate. Conviction requires two-thirds of the Senate and by my count there are already twelve senators who have shown a willingness to take on the president when they believe he is in the wrong.

    If you add that to the forty-eight Democrats in the Senate (who have shown no inclination to work with this President), Donald Trump could be six votes away from conviction in the Senate."

    Opinion: Trump Is Just Six Senate Votes Away From Impeachment | Elaine C. Kamarck On 8/17/17 at 9:04 AM EDT


    FYI This article is 2 years old. Some of the seats have changed since this was written. I have searched a bit and I am not finding what I am looking for.

    I would like to identify potential Senate votes for conviction. Shall we take some wild guesses? Well, we could probably make some educated ones, anyway.

    Let's devote this thread to learning about just where the loyalties lie for those 53 Republican Senators, shall we? Party or Country. Who might actually vote to convict, and who can we say no way never would vote to convict no matter what. Let's divide them up, stick em in columns.

    I wonder how close we can come to guessing properly?

    List of US Senators with links to info on each - wiki
    The author of this wishful thinking article is full of shit and quite stupid. This isn't Watergate and you are never going to have 20 Senators voting for conviction.
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    Hello Chuck,

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    their racists are will soon be at each other's throats
    "Out of the 44 new Republican House members, 98% are white and heterosexual, and just two new Republicans, Carol Miller of West Virginia, and Debbie Lesko of Arizona, are female. Rep. Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio, a Republican with Cuban heritage, is the only non-white GOP freshman.

    Among the 66 new Democrats, however, 34 of them (52%) are female, and 22 (34%) identify as people of color.

    Thirteen (24%) are women of color. They also include four openly LGBTQ+ members: Katie Hill of California, Sharice Davids of Kansas, Angie Craig of Minnesota, and Chris Pappas of New Hampshire. "

    Business Insider, with photo of newly elected members of the US House of Representatives, both Republican and Democratic

    I dare you to look at that photo and tell us which party might contain more racists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    "At some point in 2019 (if not sooner)
    Anything “sooner” than 2019 would be 2018 or some point in time already used up. Again, and as usual, you exhibit thoughtless yammering and as your opening, no-less), for the rest of your thoughtless, highly partisan leftist Trump hatred so poisoned by absurd leftist propaganda.

    a Republican Senator may walk into the Oval Office and say to President Trump: "Mr. President, we don't have the votes," at which point the Trump presidency will end in a resignation or a conviction in the Senate.
    Richard Nixon was guilty, by his own stupidity, beyond any reasonable doubt of obstruction of justice, (and all over a third rate burglary) whereby no evidence ever was presented that he, Nixon, pre-event knew anything about. His crime was participating in the cover up to protect the members of his administration that were involved in the burglary. The idiot Nixon could have simply fired every member of his administration involved and saved his presidency from the impeachment process.

    No such evidence of any crime has yet to be revealed involving President Donald J. Trump. All revelations, (on the contrary), show that deep state never Trump republicans and democrat leftovers from the Obama administration are reeking with crimes against the United States, the American people, the American voters and our Constitution.

    All of this impeachment horseshit, just like the Mueller investigation is exactly what President Trump says it is, a witch hunt and a disgrace to the foundations of democracy and justice.

    This scenario actually occurred forty-three years ago this summer when Republican Senator Barry Goldwater walked into the Oval Office and told Republican President Richard Nixon that they didn't have the votes in the Senate to save his presidency.
    Well friend, as far as I can see at this point you’ll do good to get a single republican vote in the Senate to remove Trump from office aside from maybe the low-life Mitt Romney. I do believe you’re nursing another, (as usual), leftist pipe dream born from leftist unfounded and unreasoned Trump hate propaganda.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Time to update the guess columns.

    Feels Like A horror movie

    It is encouraging to hear Republican Senators taking this matter seriously, and not rushing to blindly defend the President.

    WashPo


    "“I’m a juror and I’m comfortable not speaking,” Sen. James E. Risch (R-Idaho) said. Pressed again for comment, he reiterated, “I said I’m comfortable not speaking.”" Let's take him out of the NO column and put him in the MAYBE column.

    "“I’d be a juror, so I have no comment,” Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) said. " He also comes out of the NO column and moves to the MAYBE column.

    8 Republican Senators initially refused to sign on to Lindsey Graham's resolution condemning the House process. Let's put them in the YES column (if they are not already there,) shall we?

    " One was Romney, which perhaps isn’t surprising.
    Two were the GOP senators facing reelection in blue states: Collins and Cory Gardner of Colorado.
    The list included three of the four GOP senators who are retiring: Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, Mike Enzi of Wyoming and Johnny Isakson of Georgia (the last of whom is expected to resign at the end of the year and may not be around to vote in an impeachment trial).
    The other two were Murkowski, an occasional holdout in situations like these, and Rob Portman (Ohio), whose place on this list might be the most interesting."

    (We'll leave Alexander in the MAYBE column because we previously had reason to have him in the NO column.)

    These tweaks leave us with:

    NO:
    Rick Scott FL
    Mike Braun IN
    Roger Wicker MS
    Cindy Hyde-Smith MS
    John Hoeven ND
    Kevin Cramer ND
    Marsha Blackburn TN
    John Barrasso WY
    Rand Paul KY
    Tom Cotton AR
    John Thune SD



    YES:
    Mitt Romney UT
    Richard Burr NC
    Susan Collins ME
    Mike Lee UT
    Lisa Murkowski AK
    Martha McSally AZ
    Cory Gardner CO
    Marco Rubio FL
    Todd Young IN
    Joni Ernst IA
    Jerry Moran KA
    Ben Sasse NE
    Rob Portman OH
    Mike Enzi WY
    Johnny Isakson GA


    MAYBE:
    Richard Shelby AL
    Mike Crapo ID
    Bill Cassidy LA
    John Kennedy LA
    Josh Hawley MO
    Thom Tillis NC
    Tim Scott SC
    Shelly Moore Capito WV
    Dan Sullivan AK
    Pat Roberts KA
    Steve Daines MT
    Deb Fischer NE
    Jim Inhofe OK
    John Boozman AR
    Mike Rounds SD
    David Perdue GA
    James Lankford OK
    Ted Cruz TX
    Chuck Grassley IA
    Mitch McConnell KY
    Ron Johnson WI
    Lindsey Graham SC
    Roy Blunt MO
    John Cornyn TX
    Pat Toomey PA
    Jim Risch ID
    Lamar Alexander TN

    "“I thought the president made a big mistake by asking China to get involved in investigating a political opponent,” Collins told Bangor Daily News. “It’s completely inappropriate.”"
    Risch and Crapo (ID) will be NOs

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    "At some point in 2019 (if not sooner) a Republican Senator may walk into the Oval Office and say to President Trump: "Mr. President, we don't have the votes," at which point the Trump presidency will end in a resignation or a conviction in the Senate.

    This scenario actually occurred forty-three years ago this summer when Republican Senator Barry Goldwater walked into the Oval Office and told Republican President Richard Nixon that they didn't have the votes in the Senate to save his presidency.

    Following impeachment in the House, a trial takes place in the Senate. Conviction requires two-thirds of the Senate and by my count there are already twelve senators who have shown a willingness to take on the president when they believe he is in the wrong.

    If you add that to the forty-eight Democrats in the Senate (who have shown no inclination to work with this President), Donald Trump could be six votes away from conviction in the Senate."

    Opinion: Trump Is Just Six Senate Votes Away From Impeachment | Elaine C. Kamarck On 8/17/17 at 9:04 AM EDT


    FYI This article is 2 years old. Some of the seats have changed since this was written. I have searched a bit and I am not finding what I am looking for.

    I would like to identify potential Senate votes for conviction. Shall we take some wild guesses? Well, we could probably make some educated ones, anyway.

    Let's devote this thread to learning about just where the loyalties lie for those 53 Republican Senators, shall we? Party or Country. Who might actually vote to convict, and who can we say no way never would vote to convict no matter what. Let's divide them up, stick em in columns.

    I wonder how close we can come to guessing properly?

    List of US Senators with links to info on each - wiki
    Horseshoes and Hand Grenades. And....Hillary was a 95% lock.....UNTIL she wasn't.

    Yeah...left wing propaganda is so easy to believe.

    Don't ya think you are in a STRANGE POSITION when you are having to depend upon your political enemies to win a battle? Just say'n I'd much rather be TRUMP than Hillary, Brennen, Comey, Clapper, either of the Bidens'.....etc., RIGHT about now. You have already lost and are to stupid to realize it.

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    Hello domer76,

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Risch and Crapo (ID) will be NOs
    Why do you think so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello domer76,



    Why do you think so?
    They’re my senators. I know them well.

    I’ve listened to their comments on local talk radio.

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    Hello domer76,

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    They’re my senators.
    I'm sorry-

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    I know them well.

    I’ve listened to their comments on local talk radio.
    OK, I'll shift 'em to the NO list.

    That leaves us with:


    NO:
    Rick Scott FL
    Mike Braun IN
    Roger Wicker MS
    Cindy Hyde-Smith MS
    John Hoeven ND
    Kevin Cramer ND
    Marsha Blackburn TN
    John Barrasso WY
    Rand Paul KY
    Tom Cotton AR
    John Thune SD
    Jim Risch ID
    Mike Crapo ID


    YES:
    Mitt Romney UT
    Richard Burr NC
    Susan Collins ME
    Mike Lee UT
    Lisa Murkowski AK
    Martha McSally AZ
    Cory Gardner CO
    Marco Rubio FL
    Todd Young IN
    Joni Ernst IA
    Jerry Moran KA
    Ben Sasse NE
    Rob Portman OH
    Mike Enzi WY
    Johnny Isakson GA


    MAYBE:
    Richard Shelby AL
    Bill Cassidy LA
    John Kennedy LA
    Josh Hawley MO
    Thom Tillis NC
    Tim Scott SC
    Shelly Moore Capito WV
    Dan Sullivan AK
    Pat Roberts KA
    Steve Daines MT
    Deb Fischer NE
    Jim Inhofe OK
    John Boozman AR
    Mike Rounds SD
    David Perdue GA
    James Lankford OK
    Ted Cruz TX
    Chuck Grassley IA
    Mitch McConnell KY
    Ron Johnson WI
    Lindsey Graham SC
    Roy Blunt MO
    John Cornyn TX
    Pat Toomey PA
    Lamar Alexander TN

    "“I thought the president made a big mistake by asking China to get involved in investigating a political opponent,” Collins told Bangor Daily News. “It’s completely inappropriate.”"[/QUOTE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello domer76,



    I'm sorry-



    OK, I'll shift 'em to the NO list.

    That leaves us with:


    NO:
    Rick Scott FL
    Mike Braun IN
    Roger Wicker MS
    Cindy Hyde-Smith MS
    John Hoeven ND
    Kevin Cramer ND
    Marsha Blackburn TN
    John Barrasso WY
    Rand Paul KY
    Tom Cotton AR
    John Thune SD
    Jim Risch ID
    Mike Crapo ID


    YES:
    Mitt Romney UT
    Richard Burr NC
    Susan Collins ME
    Mike Lee UT
    Lisa Murkowski AK
    Martha McSally AZ
    Cory Gardner CO
    Marco Rubio FL
    Todd Young IN
    Joni Ernst IA
    Jerry Moran KA
    Ben Sasse NE
    Rob Portman OH
    Mike Enzi WY
    Johnny Isakson GA


    MAYBE:
    Richard Shelby AL
    Bill Cassidy LA
    John Kennedy LA
    Josh Hawley MO
    Thom Tillis NC
    Tim Scott SC
    Shelly Moore Capito WV
    Dan Sullivan AK
    Pat Roberts KA
    Steve Daines MT
    Deb Fischer NE
    Jim Inhofe OK
    John Boozman AR
    Mike Rounds SD
    David Perdue GA
    James Lankford OK
    Ted Cruz TX
    Chuck Grassley IA
    Mitch McConnell KY
    Ron Johnson WI
    Lindsey Graham SC
    Roy Blunt MO
    John Cornyn TX
    Pat Toomey PA
    Lamar Alexander TN

    "“I thought the president made a big mistake by asking China to get involved in investigating a political opponent,” Collins told Bangor Daily News. “It’s completely inappropriate.”"
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    Crapo is your best shot for a maybe. Risch is a Trump toady.

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