Trump is AWESOME

[Gonzomin]

Nope. YOU don't get to change the Constitution. Only the States have that authority.

The constitution does not describe the order of succession. It says if the president is incapable of doing the job, his duties fall to the VP. It does not say the VP becomes president. The founders suggested" acting president."
The house determined the order of succession in an act in 1947. Then changed again in 2006.

[stoned]

And just recently;

"All models predicted Dorian would hit Alabama"
"The noise from windmills causes Cancer"
"My father was born in a wonderful place in Germany"
"The reason Russia was in Afghanistan was because terrorists were going into Russi

"Troops just received one of the biggest pay raise ever, biggest pay raise in ten years"

There's hundreds more just from 2019

The actual number has just passed 13.000

[Into the Night]

The constitution does not describe the order of succession. It says if the president is incapable of doing the job, his duties fall to the VP. It does not say the VP becomes president. The founders suggested" acting president."
The house determined the order of succession in an act in 1947. Then changed again in 2006.

It is not a suggestion. The VP IS the acting President. The House does not have authority to change the Constitution. The 25th amendment was installed by the States in 1967. There have been no amendments since 1992.

[Into the Night]

The actual number has just passed 13.000

Argument from randU fallacy.

[Gonzomin]

It is not a suggestion. The VP IS the acting President. The House does not have authority to change the Constitution. The 25th amendment was installed by the States in 1967. There have been no amendments since 1992.

it is not in the Constitution. Just the President to VP, without designating the VP a president. Merely having him assume the duties. The 25th amendment was determining the VP would become president, not the acting president. Why did they need to do that if the Constitution covered it?

[Into the Night]

it is not in the Constitution.

Yes it is.

Just the President to VP, without designating the VP a president.

Try English. It works better.

Merely having him assume the duties.

Which makes him the acting president.

The 25th amendment was determining the VP would become president, not the acting president.

For certain cases, yes.

Section 1.
In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2.
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3.
Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4.
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

Why did they need to do that if the Constitution covered it?

They really didn't. Effective president is the same as President but without the title. No other difference. Note that Section 1 is not the only section of this amendment. Section 3 clearly refers to the VP as Acting President for the remaining cases. Section 1 clarifies line of authority for handling Section 2. You will also note that Section 1 clarifies the line of succession and the cases it applies to.

It is in the Constitution of the United States.

[Gonzomin]

Yes it is.

Try English. It works better.

Which makes him the acting president.

For certain cases, yes.



They really didn't. Effective president is the same as President but without the title. No other difference. Note that Section 1 is not the only section of this amendment. Section 3 clearly refers to the VP as Acting President for the remaining cases. Section 1 clarifies line of authority for handling Section 2. You will also note that Section 1 clarifies the line of succession and the cases it applies to.

It is in the Constitution of the United States.

Don't dismiss the title. The acting president is not the president.
The Presidential Succession Act was passed by the house and senate in 1947. That was not a changing of the constitution and did not require ratification by the states.

[PostmodernProphet]

Don't call names,it is childish. Every fucking Dem and even most Repubs know the electoral college decides who wins the presidency. You reds keep repeating that fact and saying we do not know. It is dishonest. We see Daffy bouncing into walls and breaking laws and regulations every day. The EC is an abomination held over for 250 years that should have been eliminated a long time ago. Riighty were for ending it before it worked to give them undeserved victories and now it is a great and fair invention.
The vote of the people was 3 million more for Hillary. The people chose her. Face it, her victory and the vote of the people was overridden by the atavistic EC. It is wrong.

You need to stop whining.....no one cares how 3 million extra voters.in California voted....they already have more representatives than they are entitled to by pretending illegals are citizens.....

[Gonzomin]

You need to stop whining.....no one cares how 3 million extra voters.in California voted....they already have more representatives than they are entitled to by pretending illegals are citizens.....

You mean rightys do by blatant and immoral gerrymandering. Illegals cannot vote.

[Into the Night]

Don't dismiss the title. The acting president is not the president.

I'm not. It is YOU dismissing the title.

The Presidential Succession Act was passed by the house and senate in 1947. That was not a changing of the constitution and did not require ratification by the states.

WRONG. The 25th amendment was ratified by the States in 1967. This and only this declares the path of succession of a President no longer able to serve and when this occurs.

Neither the House nor the Senate have any authority to change the Constitution.

[Into the Night]

You mean rightys do by blatant and immoral gerrymandering. Illegals cannot vote.

Illegals vote all the time. They are bused from polling place to polling place, paid, and vote as Democrats using the names of dead people.
The Democrats drive these buses around.

[Gonzomin]

I'm not. It is YOU dismissing the title.

WRONG. The 25th amendment was ratified by the States in 1967. This and only this declares the path of succession of a President no longer able to serve and when this occurs.

Neither the House nor the Senate have any authority to change the Constitution.

Was the Presidential Succession Act ratified by the states? According to what you say it would have be. Since it was not, then that is absolute proof you are incorrect. They were able to have the act because it did not involve the Constitution.

[Into the Night]

Was the Presidential Succession Act ratified by the states?

No. However, the 25th amendment was ratified by the States in 1967.

According to what you say it would have be.

That is correct.

Since it was not,

It was...in 1967.

then that is absolute proof you are incorrect.

No, you are simply ignoring the 25th amendment.

They were able to have the act because it did not involve the Constitution.

Neither the House nor the Senate have the authority to change the Constitution.

[Cancel 2020.2]

No. However, the 25th amendment was ratified by the States in 1967.

That is correct.

It was...in 1967.

No, you are simply ignoring the 25th amendment.

Neither the House nor the Senate have the authority to change the Constitution.

Wow, Gonzo sure is a DIM-WITTED one!

[Gonzomin]

And here is the act. https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory...ession_Act.htm Nothing to with an amendment.