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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello anonymoose,

    Thanks for starting this thread. I was just considering one dedicated to this amazing young woman.

    She is wise beyond her years.

    And I don't blame her one bit.

    Who wants to be brought into a world bent on self-destruction?



    Anybody who is knowledgeable understands the 12 year timeframe was not until apocalypse. That is the estimated remaining time we have to turn our emissions around. The worst effects of climate change won't happen for a long time after that, because there is a delayed reaction.

    You can't post any credible sources for science saying the end of the world happens in 2030. If you had it, you would have posted it.

    And there is a hidden message here.

    Since you can't even correctly quote what you are in denial of, that indicates there is a BS factor in your argument.

    If you really had a good argument, you would not have to make things up about the opposing view. If your position was really superior all you would have to do to win the argument would be to clearly and succinctly state your 'invincible overwhelming position.' But you're not doing that. Instead you are making things up. That says something about your position, and it ain't good.
    Anyone who is ACTUALLY knowledgeable would know that the AGW cult has issued such 'deadlines' many times over the past 30 years+. Then they keep moving the 'deadlines' back another 10 or 12 years into the future.

    But you ignore that, because you are a part of the cult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    troll ^^
    How much time left on the Climate Doomsday Clock? ... 10 years?
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Hi moose,

    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    This is obviously a very depressed child. Her "dreams and childhood have been stolen" because of climate change.
    My kids are happy and normally functioning and could give a rat's ass about "climate change".
    They played soccer, were on swim teams. One is 30, has a $25,000 truck paid for in full, a 401k, and a mortgage. The other has two happy kids, a good job as a health insurance claims something or other and a husband who is a mechanical engineer. Gives a fuck about "climate change", whatever that is.
    This is what the climate hoaxers want - suicidal kids who believe they have no hope. This is why their kids end up on the streets of west coast cities, homeless and drug addicted, skeptical about their own sexuality and gender confused throughout life. They truly believe this is good.
    Personal anecdotes are not going to change the science.
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    Hi moose,

    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Translation: Everybody who doesn't abort their child should brainwash them to be clinically depressed .
    What a stupid comment.

    We, the concerned, have enough work to do without footdragging. The world would be far better off if you would pitch in and do your part to help the effort to deal with this common threat.

    Denial will not make it go away.
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    Hello dukkha,

    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    The left/climate alarmists have completely destroying critical thinking by millenials/X'rs etc.
    They shove socialism and class warfare into their heads in place of economics as well
    Has it ever occurred to you that you might just be wrong about this whole thing?
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    Hello anonymoose,

    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    I know. Who wants well adjusted kids? Better to have them clinically depressed.
    A case of mistaking concern for depression.

    You should ask yourself what else you are getting wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Has it ever occurred to you that you might just be wrong about this whole thing?
    of course -clearly though your socialist/alamist bent has never occurred to yourself the same enlightenment

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    Hello dukkha,

    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    of course -clearly though your socialist/alamist bent has never occurred to yourself the same enlightenment
    I have considered it. I always like to weigh out the arguments for each side of an issue. Then gather information. Then make up my mind. It's a logical process.

    In this case I find more convincing arguments on the side of science, but the one over-riding and inescapable factor is asking what are the consequences of being wrong on this one?

    Well, if we believe the majority and do everything we can to end as much CO2 emissions as possible, what's lost? What's the downside? We get some new technology which is likely to be cleaner and longer lasting, more reliable than what we had? Lots of new jobs to be had building and replacing what's required? Whether or not that would even cost any more than what we are doing is even debatable, so I don't see that as a big deterrent to going with this.

    But if we do nothing we risk the habitability of the planet. That is too much to risk in any case.

    We have no proof that either way is the correct choice, but we know that one way leads to dire consequences, and the problem with going the other way is some currently rich people get their gravy train cut off. There might POSSIBLY be some cost increases for certain things, but that is not proven. It could just as well lead to cost reductions, and most certainly will in at least some cases.

    The smart thing to do if you don't know which way to go is to assume the worst case, prepare for that, and then hope for the best, hope that all your preparations were not needed. Of course if we do limit CO2 emissions with clean new tech, and then it turns out we didn't need to, oh darn. We got clean new energy sources. So we still got something for our effort.

    If we go your way and it turns out we should have taken it seriously years back it's a dead end. We can't go back in time and have a do-over.

    It is just stupid to assume the easy way out is the correct way when so much is at stake.

    And if you had performed the same process in your reasoning you would reach the same conclusion.

    There is no logic that says it is wise to take such a foolish risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    I have considered it. I always like to weigh out the arguments for each side of an issue. Then gather information. Then make up my mind. It's a logical process.
    good.glad to hear it

    In this case I find more convincing arguments on the side of science, but the one over-riding and inescapable factor is asking what are the consequences of being wrong on this one?

    Well, if we believe the majority and do everything we can to end as much CO2 emissions as possible, what's lost? What's the downside?
    energy independence,millions of jobs in the energy field, a misguided trillions of dollars spent on Green New Deal and wrecking our economy is the "loss"

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    Hello dukkha,

    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    good.glad to hear it

    energy independence,millions of jobs in the energy field, a misguided trillions of dollars spent on Green New Deal and wrecking our economy is the "loss"
    OK, so let's weigh those consequences out.

    On one hand we have the habitability of the world...

    And on the other hand we have some money.

    Which is more important?

    Well, money is VERY important to a lot of people, that's for sure. We know that. But then we have to ask what good money is without a world?

    Hmmmm.

    That's a toughie.

    I'm gonna have to go with the world.

    The world is more important than money.

    Just logic speaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello anonymoose,



    She is wise beyond her years.
    She is definitely clinically depressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    And I don't blame her one bit.
    Neither me. I would be too is I believed my dreams and my childhood were stolen.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Who wants to be brought into a world bent on self-destruction?
    Life is hard. Always has been. War is hell.


    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Anybody who is knowledgeable understands the 12 year timeframe was not until apocalypse. That is the estimated remaining time we have to turn our emissions around. The worst effects of climate change won't happen for a long time after that, because there is a delayed reaction.
    When is the estimated time of the coming Apocalypse if we don't stop farting cows and air travel within 12 yrs.?
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    You can't post any credible sources for science saying the end of the world happens in 2030.
    Of course not. It won't happen. Some kids believe that though.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    If you had it, you would have posted it.
    You better believe it.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    And there is a hidden message here.

    Since you can't even correctly quote what you are in denial of, that indicates there is a BS factor in your argument.
    I can't directly quote what I'm in denial of because I don't even know what I'm in denial of.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    If you really had a good argument,
    this child is clinically depressed, is my arguement.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    you would not have to make things up about the opposing view. If your position was really superior all you would have to do to win the argument would be to clearly and succinctly state your 'invincible overwhelming position.'
    I did. I'll do it again:
    "You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words"
    she's seriously depressed.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    But you're not doing that. Instead you are making things up.
    I copied and pasted that quote from her own twitter acct.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    That says something about your position, and it ain't good.
    Agreed. Childhood depression and child abuse are never good. this girl is in need of serious Cognitive therapy from a qualified child psychologist or psychiatrist followed by healthy after school activities such as sport and /or hobbies like learning a musical instrument.

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    Here's are a few questions that even Lord Moncton of England (climate change denier who advised the Queen at one point, I believe). couldn't answer honestly and logically: If you say that the crisis of climate change exasperated by mankind is a hoax, then are you saying that:


    1. Nearly 2 centuries of increasing deforestation on a global scale has NO effect on climate, given that forests remove carbon dioxide from the air?
    2. Nearly 2 centuries of increasing urbanization on a global scale has NO effect on climate, given that concrete and reflective glass enhances the heating index in it's area?
    3. Nearly 2 centuries of increasing industrial pollution of our air, lakes, rivers and ocean on a global scale has NO effect on climate? enhances the heating index in it's area?
    4. That all of the above coincide with the increase in global population of consumers?

    Anyone here want to give it a try?
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    Hi moose,

    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    When is the estimated time of the coming Apocalypse if we don't stop farting cows and air travel within 12 yrs.?
    There is no specific time. The effects increase gradually, becoming more pronounced over time.

    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    this child is clinically depressed, is my arguement. I did. I'll do it again: she's seriously depressed. I copied and pasted that quote from her own twitter acct. Agreed. Childhood depression and child abuse are never good. this girl is in need of serious Cognitive therapy from a qualified child psychologist or psychiatrist followed by healthy after school activities such as sport and /or hobbies like learning a musical instrument.
    OK, no, that is not an overwhelming argument. It has nothing to do with climate change. It's a deflection. You can't address the issue directly so you're trying to shift the argument to something else. You're welcome to believe anything you like, but you're not going to convince anybody who doesn't side with you already to change their mind.

    But I appreciate your post. Thank you. It lets me know how you are able to justify your position. It's based on denial and deflection.

    Makes me more comfortable with my own view to know that in order to go with the opposing view I would have to fool myself and reject wisdom and logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Nonsense, the post was entirely accurate.

    Libs are all about child abuse.

    Convincing kids they have no future, due to "climate change".

    Telling small children they can change their gender through surgical genital mutilation, and harmful synthetic hormones. Yeah, clearly that's abuse.

    No normal person could conclude otherwise.
    ^^ This is what Climate Denial has come down to > impotent wailing and unsubstantiated claims that have nothing to do with the body of peer reviewed climate science published over the past three decades.

    Moody’s Analytics says climate change could cost $69 trillion by 2100

    The consulting firm Moody’s Analytics says climate change could inflict $69 trillion in damage on the global economy by the year 2100, assuming that warming hits the two-degree Celsius threshold widely seen as the limit to stem its most dire effects.

    Moody’s, citing a report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, says that warming of 1.5 degrees Celsius, or 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit, increasingly seen by scientists as a climate-stabilizing limit, would still cause $54 trillion in damages by the end of the century.

    The firm warns that passing the two-degree threshold “could hit tipping points for even larger and irreversible warming feedback loops such as permanent summer ice melt in the Arctic Ocean.”

    The Moody’s report predicts that rising temperatures will “universally hurt worker health and productivity” and that more frequent extreme weather events “will increasingly disrupt and damage critical infrastructure and property.”
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