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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
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    One of the biggest surprises with these wind farms is the accelerated wear of the blades due to dust in the air. Engineers seriously underestimated the abrasion dust does to the blades causing them to wear out in a few years rather than the scheduled decade plus. This has dramatically increased the cost of preventative maintenance on these units.
    Of course, with no cost for fuel, they're still fairly cheap to operate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Of course, with no cost for fuel, they're still fairly cheap to operate.
    The problem is that individually, they generate fairly small quantities of power and it is DC so it requires additional equipment to convert it to usable AC. The units are also relatively high maintenance and the land they are on is unusable for other purposes. Then there's the fact they are just a major eyesore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The problem is that individually, they generate fairly small quantities of power and it is DC so it requires additional equipment to convert it to usable AC. The units are also relatively high maintenance and the land they are on is unusable for other purposes. Then there's the fact they are just a major eyesore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    And, where do they get it when the wind doesn't blow...?

    But wind is way better than solar. The sun sets everyday...
    The US gets around 1% of it energy from solar, pretty piss poor investment to my mind! Crescent Dunes and Ivanpah have both gone bust, incredibly expensive way to fry birds of prey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The problem is that individually, they generate fairly small quantities of power and it is DC so it requires additional equipment to convert it to usable AC. The units are also relatively high maintenance and the land they are on is unusable for other purposes. Then there's the fact they are just a major eyesore.
    Jesus wept, how many times has some idiot said the wind is free? What is the working life of those huge offshore turbines, the environment is incredibly hostile. I can't see them lasting more than 20 years at most, wind turbines are found to lose 1.6 ± 0.2% of their output per year, with average load factors declining from 28.5% when new to 21% at age 19. Then there is the question of decommissioning and disposal of huge glass fibre blades.

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    Wind turbines need regular maintenance and lots of it. Texas billionaire T. Boone Pickens got into wind generation for a bit thinking it was the next big thing. He found it was a total bust and bailed.

    https://www.foxnews.com/story/texas-...-for-wind-farm
    https://www.fastcompany.com/1514275/...xas-wind-power
    https://www.pjstar.com/article/20090709/News/307099829

    Solar has other issues. Water consumption is high due to the cleaning requirements and this is a problem in desert regions. Clearing land and the solar arrays create urban heat island effects (in the worst cases, the "bird cookers") that disrupt local weather patterns. PV solar has a service life of 15 to 30 years depending on the panels used.

    It's all stupidity. To match one nuclear plant 24/7 you need roughly a solar array 75 to 100 miles on a side. Can you imagine every bit of desert between LA and Phoenix paved over in solar panels to provide power? That's what we're looking at here. It's insane.

    You see, if you want CO2 reduced, fine by me. But I want it done in a responsible and efficient way. That way is natural gas and nuclear, not wind and solar. Convincing the radicals on the Left is possible. I showed this guy nuclear was the answer and he bought in.



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    With the collapse of the excesses of the aircraft industry a shift from aircraft manufacture to wind turbines would, significantly, reduce their production costs- and provide employment for the assholes that have been polluting our atmosphere for so long. Nobody can have failed to notice the dramatic improvements in jet-free air quality and wind turbines do not cause significant atmospheric damage. That's one excellent reason for increasing their usage- which , no doubt, will get up the noses of corporate polluters.

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    Greta Thunberg

    'This is me at the age of 2. The picture was taken 2005 in France.
    Since then about one third of ALL the world’s fossil fuel CO2 emissions have occurred. Over half of our CO2 emissions have taken place since 1990.

    That sort of gives you an idea of how fast we’re racing in the wrong direction. Our annual emissions are now so high that every single year of Business As Usual will impact future living conditions for countless generations. Join us this Friday, September 25th for the global climate strike.' #FridaysForFuture
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Wind turbines need regular maintenance and lots of it. Texas billionaire T. Boone Pickens got into wind generation for a bit thinking it was the next big thing. He found it was a total bust and bailed.

    https://www.foxnews.com/story/texas-...-for-wind-farm
    https://www.fastcompany.com/1514275/...xas-wind-power
    https://www.pjstar.com/article/20090709/News/307099829

    Solar has other issues. Water consumption is high due to the cleaning requirements and this is a problem in desert regions. Clearing land and the solar arrays create urban heat island effects (in the worst cases, the "bird cookers") that disrupt local weather patterns. PV solar has a service life of 15 to 30 years depending on the panels used.

    It's all stupidity. To match one nuclear plant 24/7 you need roughly a solar array 75 to 100 miles on a side. Can you imagine every bit of desert between LA and Phoenix paved over in solar panels to provide power? That's what we're looking at here. It's insane.

    You see, if you want CO2 reduced, fine by me. But I want it done in a responsible and efficient way. That way is natural gas and nuclear, not wind and solar. Convincing the radicals on the Left is possible. I showed this guy nuclear was the answer and he bought in.



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    Of course the problem with nuclear is the incredibly dangerous waste. Nuclear isn't practical until we can figure out fusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitherin' View Post
    I was listening to an interesting programme on Aids (BBC 4) last night, and it was similar under Reagan. His regime ignored it until some very strong and well-publicised demos brought him to heel.
    Is that so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Of course the problem with nuclear is the incredibly dangerous waste. Nuclear isn't practical until we can figure out fusion.
    Actually that isn't that much of a problem. The waste is almost entirely long lived alpha and beta emitters that decay at a very slow rate. Stored in a repository like Yucca Mountain, this waste poses no hazard. The casks for storage are nearly indestructible. On top of that, if we really wanted to, we could reprocess the waste into usable materials like the French already do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    Jesus wept, how many times has some idiot said the wind is free? What is the working life of those huge offshore turbines, the environment is incredibly hostile. I can't see them lasting more than 20 years at most, wind turbines are found to lose 1.6 ± 0.2% of their output per year, with average load factors declining from 28.5% when new to 21% at age 19. Then there is the question of decommissioning and disposal of huge glass fibre blades.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...60148113005727
    I wasn't educated as an engineer but it seems to me that if we're going the non-fossil fuel offshore route maybe tidal generators are something to look at and develop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Actually that isn't that much of a problem. The waste is almost entirely long lived alpha and beta emitters that decay at a very slow rate. Stored in a repository like Yucca Mountain, this waste poses no hazard. The casks for storage are nearly indestructible. On top of that, if we really wanted to, we could reprocess the waste into usable materials like the French already do.
    Fourth gen nuclear will be able to use nuclear waste aka partially spent fuel. It's amazing the number of idiots that just spout the same old bollocks over and over!
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Greta Thunberg

    'This is me at the age of 2. The picture was taken 2005 in France.
    Since then about one third of ALL the world’s fossil fuel CO2 emissions have occurred. Over half of our CO2 emissions have taken place since 1990.

    Troll trap. Here they come ;
    What a lying cunt!! How the fuck did you think you could get away with such massive lies? Did you think you could sand blast them away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Of course the problem with nuclear is the incredibly dangerous waste. Nuclear isn't practical until we can figure out fusion.
    It's never been practical. Its costs are astronomical and waste disposal costs even more than that- if you can discover the safe places to put it that don't exist.
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