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    Default Whistleblow THIS: There is No Whistleblower!

    The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/polit...-st=1569161597

    For days on end we’ve seen non-stop dribble about President Trump’s “abuse of power.” For days we’ve been told convoluted stories of how the president — on an official call — which had many ears tuned in — openly did “something” that was of “urgent concern.”

    The main reason it was labeled as such?

    The whistleblower claimed it was.


    We’ve been told of grandiose actions by the president that supposedly indicated he was withholding aid to a foreign government. Never mind that this president has since the beginning of his campaign run on the idea that he might stop all foreign aid as means to re-evaluate any single nation’s willingness to advance American interests.

    The implication of that threatened withholding seemed to be based on some sort of ill-described plot of that nation’s refusal to investigate “Trump’s political opponent.” (Never mind that the president is allowed to on any level he wishes advise any national leader he chooses, on or about nearly anything he’d like.)

    We have been told that the “opponent” he wanted investigated is Joe Biden. (Never mind that Biden is not now, and will likely not be his political opponent, but rather a former candidate for President who’s never gotten more than 6 percent in any national election.)


    Also... Biden is now running second in the first in the nation caucus state of Iowa.


    We have had it told to us that the president was pressuring said country to investigate Hunter Biden’s connection to extremely prosperous dealing in said country. The president has implied that when Joe Biden had been vice president that he may have been able to press his thumb to the scale—using his official capacity in office—to enrich his son. (Never mind that the president has repeatedly told the White House press corps, the American people, and even leaders of other governments that “someone needed to look into that,” on multiple occasions as well.)

    The only problem being... there is no whistleblower.

    Per CNN: “The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN.”

    By definition this person is not a “whistleblower” with provable evidence ready to be turned over and deserving of legal protection.

    This person is someone who is spreading hearsay.

    All of the rest of it is just NOISE!

    The reason the acting director of intelligence did not pass on the complaint to Congress is simple: the source is not credible.

    None of this takes into reality the fact that even if Trump was to have done nearly every last detail of what the speculation on twitter claims he has done that he still would not have broken any significant rule or law.

    The scandal here—as it almost always is the case—points more to wrong doing being done by people who oppose the President.

    But none of this should even receive one more second of consideration.

    Because there is not now, nor was there ever, a witnessed whistleblower.
    https://townhall.com/columnists/kevi...lower-n2553460

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    you wish

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    you wish
    Per CNN: “The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN.”

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    Fold 'em already. Your standard bearer's huge ass is getting whooped soundly...and not by Stormy Daniels this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Per CNN: “The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN.”
    Interesting, yet after review it was labeled "serious" and "urgent concern" by the IG, you telling us now the individual fooled the IG investigating the complaint?

    Then why doesn't Trump then make the complaint avaliable to Congress? Why not release the transcript of the phone conversation?

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    In other words, the Democrats are again making wild charges based on the claims of someone who has no firsthand knowledge of the conversation during which the impeachable offenses allegedly took place. These charges have been denied by the Ukrainian government and declared ridiculous by the president, yet the Dems are yammering about impeachment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    In other words, the Democrats are again making wild charges based on the claims of someone who has no firsthand knowledge of the conversation during which the impeachable offenses allegedly took place. These charges have been denied by the Ukrainian government and declared ridiculous by the president, yet the Dems are yammering about impeachment.
    See we are regurgitating "deep state" again, always a catch all

    Tell us then why did the IG after investigating it label it "serious" and of "urgent concern," and if as you said, why is Trump with holding it from Congress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Interesting, yet after review it was labeled "serious" and "urgent concern" by the IG, you telling us now the individual fooled the IG investigating the complaint?

    Then why doesn't Trump then make the complaint avaliable to Congress? Why not release the transcript of the phone conversation?
    He should NOT release the transcript -too many phone calls have already been leaked, and there has to be a presumption of confidentiality when speaking to foreign leaders.

    It doesn't even qualify as "whistleblowing" since POTUS is NOT part of the intelligence services.

    That said the IG also said it was more then a phone call -but since the phone call had no quid pro quo
    ( even Ukraine denies it) it's like trying to find obstruction Mueller when Trump gave Mueller full access and there was no Russian collusion.

    I don't know why the IG went nuts -but the DoJ correctly told him this was not Congressional purview,
    since one cannot "whistle blow" on POTUS.

    So the IG is hanging onto a thin thread - which looks like 2rd hand reports and leaked by a partisan

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Per CNN: “The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN.”
    if CNN is correct why won't Trump release the complaint?

    lol too easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    See we are regurgitating "deep state" again, always a catch all

    Tell us then why did the IG after investigating it label it "serious" and of "urgent concern," and if as you said, why is Trump with holding it from Congress?
    you don't understand deep state -best you dont use that term.
    You'll get more on it soon enough when Horowitz and Durham are done

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    you don't understand deep state -best you dont use that term.
    You'll get more on it soon enough when Horowitz and Durham are done
    why won't Trump release the complaint?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    why won't Trump release the complaint?
    post 8.
    there is a significant downside to doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/polit...-st=1569161597

    For days on end we’ve seen non-stop dribble about President Trump’s “abuse of power.” For days we’ve been told convoluted stories of how the president — on an official call — which had many ears tuned in — openly did “something” that was of “urgent concern.”

    The main reason it was labeled as such?

    The whistleblower claimed it was.


    We’ve been told of grandiose actions by the president that supposedly indicated he was withholding aid to a foreign government. Never mind that this president has since the beginning of his campaign run on the idea that he might stop all foreign aid as means to re-evaluate any single nation’s willingness to advance American interests.

    The implication of that threatened withholding seemed to be based on some sort of ill-described plot of that nation’s refusal to investigate “Trump’s political opponent.” (Never mind that the president is allowed to on any level he wishes advise any national leader he chooses, on or about nearly anything he’d like.)

    We have been told that the “opponent” he wanted investigated is Joe Biden. (Never mind that Biden is not now, and will likely not be his political opponent, but rather a former candidate for President who’s never gotten more than 6 percent in any national election.)


    Also... Biden is now running second in the first in the nation caucus state of Iowa.


    We have had it told to us that the president was pressuring said country to investigate Hunter Biden’s connection to extremely prosperous dealing in said country. The president has implied that when Joe Biden had been vice president that he may have been able to press his thumb to the scale—using his official capacity in office—to enrich his son. (Never mind that the president has repeatedly told the White House press corps, the American people, and even leaders of other governments that “someone needed to look into that,” on multiple occasions as well.)

    The only problem being... there is no whistleblower.

    Per CNN: “The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN.”

    By definition this person is not a “whistleblower” with provable evidence ready to be turned over and deserving of legal protection.

    This person is someone who is spreading hearsay.

    All of the rest of it is just NOISE!

    The reason the acting director of intelligence did not pass on the complaint to Congress is simple: the source is not credible.

    None of this takes into reality the fact that even if Trump was to have done nearly every last detail of what the speculation on twitter claims he has done that he still would not have broken any significant rule or law.

    The scandal here—as it almost always is the case—points more to wrong doing being done by people who oppose the President.

    But none of this should even receive one more second of consideration.

    Because there is not now, nor was there ever, a witnessed whistleblower.
    https://townhall.com/columnists/kevi...lower-n2553460
    Utterly irrelevant, whore.
    A. twump has publicly admitted to having done what he's accused of doing.
    B. the IG thought it was credible enough to think congress should hear of it.
    C. twump is breaking the law by not allowing it to be released.

    I win. You lose. Again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    why won't Trump release the complaint?
    Keep us posted, will you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterAssassin View Post
    Utterly irrelevant, whore.
    A. twump has publicly admitted to having done what he's accused of doing.
    B. the IG thought it was credible enough to think congress should hear of it.
    C. twump is breaking the law by not allowing it to be released.

    I win. You lose. Again.
    You keep us posted, too

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