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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello cawacko,



    I don't recall. I think I heard on PBS Newshour.
    I’d double check those numbers because everything I’ve read (simple google search) shows her getting crushed at the moment. And the reality is you don’t win the Democratic nominee for President with out the support of black voters (see Sanders, Bernie in 2016) or the Presidency (see Clinton, Hillary also 2016).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    The Dem party abandoned its Progressive roots and became Republican-lite so now any representative who veers back to the left where it belongs is painted by the media and the powers that be to be too far left...so let's call BULL-SHIT! on that notion.

    It's also been the left wing that has put policies in place that actually build, maintain and protect a middle class as the right wing seeks to destroy it.
    How do you explain a state like California where we have the most wealth and most poverty and it is very difficult for folks in the middle to live here and is completely dominated by Democrats? For just one example how does strong restrictions and limitation on development help make housing more affordable and help middle class people live the American Dream of buying their own home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crowonapost View Post
    There's nothing to argue because you made no point. You did not argue a damn thing actually. You literally just did some name calling and somehow think you made some scholarly point, lol.
    So the level of discourse we have is well, this lovely back and forth.
    Now go take your lil marbles and declare yourself the winner, so the adults can continue to have some much needed adult time.
    Lol. Still waiting.
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Pocohantas will crash and burn like Biden, ... and you'll end up with Sanders, ... which would have happened in 2016 if the DNC and Fake News media ... hadn't rigged your primary for Queen Hillary.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

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    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello anatta,

    Pardon me while I doubt those numbers.
    you could do some reseach and find out on your own


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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello crowonapost,



    How is that done?

    The labor costs overseas are so much lower than the US. That's the main reason MFG left. How do you talk profit-oriented people into accepting less profits?
    I really am not sure. There's no doubt that labor is cheap elsewhere. There are no easy answers without changing our core mentality which deifies capitalism at the expense of people and the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    Good for Liz Warren and who did not see this coming. Biden is a good guy with some baggage but many knew it would begin shaking out this way.
    Let me just say this right up front! The reason why Bernie Sanders did not get the nomination in 2016- was a direct result of not convincing even one Super-Delegate to vote for him. The Super-Delegates make up 16% of the total delegates!

    And since Lizzie Warren has stolen Bernie's Socialistic Agenda, fire and brimstone- She is going to end up with the same result in 2020 as Bernie Sanders.

    So, as long as Warren is promoting ending Insurance for profit that 180,000,000 people are happy with, and as long as she is promising that tax-payers are going to pickup every college loan in the nation, and promising 4 year degrees for free for anyone who wants one- THE SUPER-DELEGATES WILL MAKE SURE SHE DOES NOT GET THE NOMINATION.

    So, if you personally want to see Liz Warren win, you better convince her to get with what the majority of American voters want.

    Because that is how Super-Delegates vote- For the issues that are important to most Americans and the ones who offer policies that they do support!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Let me just say this right up front! The reason why Bernie Sanders did not get the nomination in 2016- was a direct result of not convincing even one Super-Delegate to vote for him. The Super-Delegates make up 16% of the total delegates!

    And since Lizzie Warren has stolen Bernie's Socialistic Agenda, fire and brimstone- She is going to end up with the same result in 2020 as Bernie Sanders.

    So, as long as Warren is promoting ending Insurance for profit that 180,000,000 people are happy with, and as long as she is promising that tax-payers are going to pickup every college loan in the nation, and promising 4 year degrees for free for anyone who wants one- THE SUPER-DELEGATES WILL MAKE SURE SHE DOES NOT GET THE NOMINATION.

    So, if you personally want to see Liz Warren win, you better convince her to get with what the majority of American voters want.

    Because that is how Super-Delegates vote- For the issues that are important to most Americans and the ones who offer policies that they do support!
    And these super powers...I mean delegates, did not like Hillary but they will love Biden? The election was hijacked on various levels via multiple sources and if the policies and systemic corruption is not addressed, the grand experiment is over. Biden will do nothing to change anything and he has verbally confirmed that already nor will he ever get the momentum to beat Trump. He was horrible at the debates. And once again...when have you seen large inspired crowds and enthusiasm at a Biden rally? You never will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    trade war is a long term play. Just like we gave our jobs away we gave China a path to steal our intellectual property, restrict their markets for our imports, and various other malign behaviors that impact balance of payments.
    Man no shit. We really screwed ourselves when we decided to go for that seductive cheap labor with communist China. In so many ways we failed to understand their mindset. The culture has a history of copying each other. We would see it as plagiarizing, they would see it as improving upon. Further I think many people have failed to see that China thinks like elephants, they do not forget. They have a long view of being suppressed and used by the West and they've just bid their time and will get back by stealing our intellectual property, manufacturing, our ideas and improving on them.

    Further the mistake Trump has is that somehow we are going to hurt China and it's people with this trade war, we will not. They don't give a shit about their people and have much higher tolerance for suffering. The only ones that will get hurt are us. This is communist China, they purged millions of people to be the Communists they are today and the people are so well indoctrinated they will suffer for pride.

    Finally we fail to grasp how long China's view is, I'm talking 5000 years long view, we have maybe a a couple of hundred years.

    It hasn't hit us consumers tOo hard yet ( little inflation) but it will if we can't get it done.
    Sadly I've a rather bleak outlook with us winning this, as I stated above we do not have the stomach for the long term suffering that China does and they would do it to spite ALL the west.

    The best thing the Dems could do is pass NAFTA 2 -which would signal Chna we can ratify any agreement with them as well
    Honestly I don't think they give two shits to the wind about that. All we are doing is accelerating the awakening of the dragon and it honestly does not bode well for most of humanity. Not with this form of Communism and technology. They are waay out in front with A.I. for warfare and controlling society and they will, once conditions are right, unleash that on the world, covertly, as 'business'. I've never had much of an opportunity to talk about this so this random conversation kinda' got me going, lol. I am truly frightened by the implications of where China is going and honestly this is waaay out of Trump or most politicians depth. They are poking the tail of a rather dangerous dragon. A LOT of Asian countries know the history of China and they do not like them. Wherever they go they are arrogant shits and will populate a place until they control it. One can see a taste of what's going in a sidelined way with Hong Kong. Throughout the world there are Chinese loyalists fighting any group of Chinese expat Hong Kongers. It's a testament to the strong cohesiveness of communist Chinese culture, in other countries.

    I strongly feel this is a very dumb, short sighted and dangerous path we are doing by approaching China in a hard ball way, it will only entrench them and we do not have the long term stomach to take them on because quite simply they are more willing to have their people suffer and ironically those people like it, for the longer term goal of getting 'back' at the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    I took your ignorant redneck ass off of ignore out of curiosity over what idiotic garbage you were puking at me this time.

    Let me once more set you straight on something, toothless little hillbilly boy... Trump did not "whip Hillary's ass".

    He won by 77,000 votes across three northern states.

    She beat him by over 3,000,000 popular votes.

    Now go crawl back inside your trailer and get back in bed with your sister.

    Or your brother, in your case.

    Both, more likely.

    Either way, its back on ignore with you.

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    Trump beat her 304 - 227 using the only method to determine the winner, boy.

    Back to coward land for you pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crowonapost View Post
    Man no shit. We really screwed ourselves when we decided to go for that seductive cheap labor with communist China. In so many ways we failed to understand their mindset. The culture has a history of copying each other. We would see it as plagiarizing, they would see it as improving upon. Further I think many people have failed to see that China thinks like elephants, they do not forget. They have a long view of being suppressed and used by the West and they've just bid their time and will get back by stealing our intellectual property, manufacturing, our ideas and improving on them.

    Further the mistake Trump has is that somehow we are going to hurt China and it's people with this trade war, we will not. They don't give a shit about their people and have much higher tolerance for suffering. The only ones that will get hurt are us. This is communist China, they purged millions of people to be the Communists they are today and the people are so well indoctrinated they will suffer for pride.

    Finally we fail to grasp how long China's view is, I'm talking 5000 years long view, we have maybe a a couple of hundred years.



    Sadly I've a rather bleak outlook with us winning this, as I stated above we do not have the stomach for the long term suffering that China does and they would do it to spite ALL the west.



    Honestly I don't think they give two shits to the wind about that. All we are doing is accelerating the awakening of the dragon and it honestly does not bode well for most of humanity. Not with this form of Communism and technology. They are waay out in front with A.I. for warfare and controlling society and they will, once conditions are right, unleash that on the world, covertly, as 'business'. I've never had much of an opportunity to talk about this so this random conversation kinda' got me going, lol. I am truly frightened by the implications of where China is going and honestly this is waaay out of Trump or most politicians depth. They are poking the tail of a rather dangerous dragon. A LOT of Asian countries know the history of China and they do not like them. Wherever they go they are arrogant shits and will populate a place until they control it. One can see a taste of what's going in a sidelined way with Hong Kong. Throughout the world there are Chinese loyalists fighting any group of Chinese expat Hong Kongers. It's a testament to the strong cohesiveness of communist Chinese culture, in other countries.

    I strongly feel this is a very dumb, short sighted and dangerous path we are doing by approaching China in a hard ball way, it will only entrench them and we do not have the long term stomach to take them on because quite simply they are more willing to have their people suffer and ironically those people like it, for the longer term goal of getting 'back' at the West.
    I cannot recall exactly who it was at the moment but I heard an interview on NPR just a few weeks back on this very topic which voiced the same sentiments and it made a lot of sense. The point is that China is unsurpassed at battening down the hatches...so to speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Trump beat her 304 - 227 using the only method to determine the winner, boy.

    Back to coward land for you pussy.
    And Trump's rigged election makes for the ideal example of why the Electoral College is bull-shit. The minority get to rule the majority based upon a slave era rule? On which effing planet in what stinking universe does that BS hold water?

    More states are making this major historical change to prevent another 2016 election
    https://hellogiggles.com/news/states...-popular-vote/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    And Trump's rigged election makes for the ideal example of why the Electoral College is bull-shit. The minority get to rule the majority based upon a slave era rule? On which effing planet in what stinking universe does that BS hold water?
    Nothing rigged about it.

    Hillary got her ass whipped by the standard set in the Constitution you left winger hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    And these super powers...I mean delegates, did not like Hillary but they will love Biden? The election was hijacked on various levels via multiple sources and if the policies and systemic corruption is not addressed, the grand experiment is over. Biden will do nothing to change anything and he has verbally confirmed that already nor will he ever get the momentum to beat Trump. He was horrible at the debates. And once again...when have you seen large inspired crowds and enthusiasm at a Biden rally? You never will.
    The Super-Delagates voted 100% for Hillary in 2016! That is how she dominated the the win for the nomination. They stuck with her to the end- TOO BAD YOU BERNIE BOTS DIDN'T!

    You people who are over on the Lunatic Fringe side of the Democratic party- THE SOCIALIST side- the so-called progressive side- are doing nothing more than driving people towards voting for Donald Trump because you keep feeding their fire by trying to ram things down people's throats that the majority of voters do not want!

    You apparently have not even read the platform for which Biden and the other candidates have to offer, and not kept up with the polls that reveal what Democrats want over all. Because you just completely misrepresented Joe Biden in your comments, and have totally ignored the polls about what Americans want most.

    Here! Let me give you a few thoughts

    "Revolution"

    You say you want a revolution
    Well, you know
    We all want to change the world
    You tell me that it's evolution
    Well, you know
    We all want to change the world

    But when you talk about destruction
    Don't you know that you can count me out

    Don't you know it's gonna be alright
    Alright, alright

    You say you got a real solution
    Well, you know
    We'd all love to see the plan
    You ask me for a contribution
    Well, you know
    We're all doing what we can

    But if you want money for people with minds that hate
    All I can tell you is brother you have to wait

    Don't you know it's gonna be alright
    Alright, alright, al...

    You say you'll change the constitution
    Well, you know
    We all want to change your head
    You tell me it's the institution
    Well, you know
    You'd better free your mind instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    I cannot recall exactly who it was at the moment but I heard an interview on NPR just a few weeks back on this very topic which voiced the same sentiments and it made a lot of sense. The point is that China is unsurpassed at battening down the hatches...so to speak.
    Interesting. I miss NPR, regretfully these days I don't have the time to listen or check on a lot of media. I do however read a lot of random stuff on Reddit. It's so all over the place, like my brain lol.
    Oooh look cats, hey there's random fights, nice scifi thread, ooh motorcycles, oh shit Trump did some other shitbaggery because evil and stupid, oh nice cat pic. All in about 10 min. heh.

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