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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    There is no such thing as "the facts". Facts are not proofs.

    NASA is a government agency. Government agencies are not science.

    Define "global warming". Define "climate crisis". You are required to adhere to Logic. You are required to adhere to all currently standing theories of science. You are required to adhere to Statistical Mathematics.
    And that is piss poor deflection, "government agencies are not science," so I guess that agency that put a man on the moon bases all their work upon nonfactual data

    Show us where the science NASA supports is incorrect

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    Thanks, Guno. That's about it.


    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    What Can True Christians™ Do to Help Speed Up Global Warming So Jesus Comes Back Quicker?


    As True Bible believing Christians™, we have a much better understanding about the fate of this planet than any Biologist, Environmentalist, or so-called scientist because we have a personal relationship with the Fellow who created this whole place to begin with! Friends, as True Christians™ then, being familiar with the Holy Bible gives you more authority than anyone who holds a post-graduate degree! That's something to be proud of - don't wince about it! And don't let people call you crazy! God's Holy Scriptures give the poorest farmer's servant in our congregation the power to win an argument with a Bio-Chemist, or a Nuclear Physicist - without even knowing a lick about what them folks studied in their fancy secular universities! What these ignorant unsaved, over-educated folks don't understand is that they can gather all the data, all the research and present all the facts they care to collect about any subject under the sun - but when you hold it next to child-like faith in the Almighty God, the most learned Evolutionist or Environmentalist, will widen their blind eyes in awe, and cower in fear at the truth of God's Word! Praise Jesus! For the simple truth, we need only look to our old children's Sunday School song, "He's Got the Whole World in His Hands!" Oh, GLORY!


    Anyone who has read the Bible and believes every word will agree that worrying about our environment and trying to conserve energy (among other things) is an act of defiance against the Living God. Friends, the Lord will take care of everything. God made the Earth and the Heavens and if He wants to destroy it all, He will! In fact, one of the things that makes folks True Christians™ in the first place is that we are PRAYING for the destruction of this planet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Idiots are at eco church praying to rhododendrons.

    Union Theological Seminary Holds ‘Confession to Plants’ in Chapel Ceremony
    https://www.breitbart.com/environmen...apel-ceremony/
    "Breitbart" -- *snort*

    From your article:

    “When Robin Wall Kimmerer spoke at Union last year, she concluded her lecture by tasking us—and all faith communities—to develop new liturgies by which to mourn, grieve, heal and change in response to our climate emergency,” one UTS tweet said. “We couldn’t be prouder to participate in this work.”

    Have you ever read her book, "Braiding Sweetgrass"? I highly recommend it. She is a Native woman with a PhD in plant ecology and botany, and a long career as professor at SUNY-ESF, where she blends TEK (Traditional Ecological Knowledge) with modern science. She has occasionally lectured at my university, and I hope to hear her on her next visit.

    Braiding Sweetgrass is part memoir and part ode to our planet and all her lifeforms. Before you sneer at others' beliefs, you might consider learning more about them.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Pulling yet another liberal thread out of the chamber of ECHOS...ECHOS...ECHOS...ECHOS...ECHOS...ECHOS...ECHOS...

    Anyone is welcome to participate.

    Here is the original post in its entirety:
    The premise of that morons thread is false. Climate comes in at #10 as issues that concern Americans:

    2019 Aug
    The government/Poor leadership 22%
    ECONOMIC PROBLEMS (NET) 11%
    Immigration 18%
    Guns/Gun control 8%
    Race relations/Racism 8%
    Healthcare 6%
    Unifying the country 4%
    Lack of respect for each other 4%
    Crime/Violence 4%
    Environment/Pollution/Climate change 3%
    Poverty/Hunger/Homelessness 3%
    Ethics/moral/religious/family decline 2%
    Education 2%
    Drugs 1%
    International issues, problems 1%


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/1675/Mo...t-Problem.aspx
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Cars pollute the air. That is why California has emission control standards. Try putting your mouth around a tailpipe for 30 minutes, tell me what happens.
    That's about as stupid as saying take a bottle of Oxycontin and see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    He actually asked "Why are people so afraid of something which they cannot even define??"

    I bet he thinks that "germ theory" is just a theory because you can't see those, either.
    Climate change ranks low with Americans. #10 of 22 issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Translation: "I refuse to answer that".

    If car companies want to sell cars in California, they'll meet California Standards.
    Has nothing to do with climate change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And that is piss poor deflection,
    No, I directly answered you.

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    "government agencies are not science,"
    Precisely. They aren't.

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    so I guess that agency that put a man on the moon
    The NASA of today is a LOOOOOOOOONG way from being the NASA that put man on the moon.

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    bases all their work upon nonfactual data
    Learn what a 'fact' is...

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    Show us where the science NASA supports is incorrect
    I don't have to show you anything. YOU are claiming that the Earth is warming. YOU need to explain how this is occurring. Remember, I require that you follow logic, science, and mathematics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The premise of that morons thread is false. Climate comes in at #10 as issues that concern Americans:

    2019 Aug
    The government/Poor leadership 22%
    ECONOMIC PROBLEMS (NET) 11%
    Immigration 18%
    Guns/Gun control 8%
    Race relations/Racism 8%
    Healthcare 6%
    Unifying the country 4%
    Lack of respect for each other 4%
    Crime/Violence 4%
    Environment/Pollution/Climate change 3%
    Poverty/Hunger/Homelessness 3%
    Ethics/moral/religious/family decline 2%
    Education 2%
    Drugs 1%
    International issues, problems 1%


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/1675/Mo...t-Problem.aspx
    According to that poll, anyway. But yes, in my experiences of interacting with people, it does seem to be quite low on the concern list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    No, I directly answered you.


    Precisely. They aren't.


    The NASA of today is a LOOOOOOOOONG way from being the NASA that put man on the moon.


    Learn what a 'fact' is...


    I don't have to show you anything. YOU are claiming that the Earth is warming. YOU need to explain how this is occurring. Remember, I require that you follow logic, science, and mathematics.
    And then he adds to it, "the NASA of today is a LOOOOOOOOONG way from being the NASA that put man on the moon," like today they operate based on guesses rather than facts, beautiful

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    According to that poll, anyway. But yes, in my experiences of interacting with people, it does seem to be quite low on the concern list.
    Wait a minute, so now climate change isn't an issue cause it ranks low in the polls? Bubonic plague probably ranked low in the polls until people saw the immediate results

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    How many times does anyone have to provide for you the facts?
    https://climate.nasa.gov/
    NO facts there Arsecheese; just theoretical baloney.

    Define climate change Arsecheese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Admit you don't have any children so when you pass, it doesn't really matter what happens to the Planet.
    Absurdity; a sure sign of the last desperate refuge for liars, fools and ignorance; and those who have lost their arguments.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Bubonic plague probably ranked low in the polls until people saw the immediate results
    Good lord; you are the definition of a buffoon.
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