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    Default China and India demand cash for climate action on eve of UN summit

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    All part of the 'Chinese Hoax', get the West to pay off the biggest polluters!!

    China and India demanded rich countries provide financial support for them to increase their climate plans, as leaders prepared to meet at a UN summit in New York

    The summit has been personally convened by UN secretary general António Guterres as a moment for political leaders to show their willingness to increase their climate plans and deepen the decarbonisation of their economies.

    Guterres asked governments to come ready to announce the plans they will set next year.

    But in separate statements published on Tuesday, the world’s first and fourth largest emitters put the onus on rich countries to fulfil their commitments to mobilise $100 billion per year by 2020 for developing countries to cope with the impacts of climate change.

    As the largest developing country, China “also enjoys the right to receive funds”, it in a statement published by the ministry of ecology and environment.

    It said developed countries should “implement and strengthen” and “honour the commitment” to “support the developing world in addressing climate change”.

    In its statement, India’s ministry of finance said its plan was set on a “best effort” basis and that “finance holds a key for all its actions”.

    With uncertain finance and technology provision, “India can only aspire to implement the already promised climate actions”, the statement said. It added that India “may only be in a position to elaborate or clarify its post 2020 climate” plan at the summit.

    Instead, India said will be “better placed” to “suitably recalibrate [its climate plan] through re-examination and improvement,” in 2023, when the next global stocktake to ramp up ambition is due to take place.

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    As the largest developing country, China “also enjoys the right to receive funds”, it in a statement published by the ministry of ecology and environment.

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    It's stunning that the world is supposed to think of China as a developing nation.
    As far as India, aren't they vegetarians with millions of reincarnated relatives
    inhabiting cows wandering around farting CO2?
    Both countries have had plenty of years to get their act together to reduce rather
    than increase whatever phony climate issues the stupid U.N. wants to dictate.
    The whole thing is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    It's stunning that the world is supposed to think of China as a developing nation.
    As far as India, aren't they vegetarians with millions of reincarnated relatives
    inhabiting cows wandering around farting CO2?
    Both countries have had plenty of years to get their act together to reduce rather
    than increase whatever phony climate issues the stupid U.N. wants to dictate.
    The whole thing is ridiculous.
    This is the real Chinese hoax, next time some arsehole like Crypiss says Trump thinks climate change is a Chinese hoax, point out that Chinese are gaming the system for their own selfish ends.

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    by Dr. Paul Viminitz

    Of the things I care most about, AGW is near the bottom. But because, as George W. Bush put it, either you’re with us or you’re against them, I think I’d rather be interestingly wrong than politically correct. Accordingly I rehearse what I take to be the case for AGW denial, masquerading – so as to continue to get dinner invitations – as tongue in cheek.

    I think I was only about six or seven, but I remember it quite clearly. We were sitting at the dinner table and my sister, who was a few years older than me, asked my parents whether we Jews believe in an afterlife. I don’t remember their answer, but I do remember thinking how strange it is to ask someone else to tell me what I believe. And yet that’s precisely what I’m about to do.

    Unlike Christianity or Islam, Judaism is a non-doctrinal religion. Moreover, you don’t decide to be a Jew. You’re a Jew just in case, well, you are one. Your beliefs have nothing to do with it. But one might decide, for reasons having nothing to do with what she believes, that it would be ‘cool’ to be, say, a Buddhist, or a Flat-Earther, or a white supremacist, or whatever, and only then enquire into what one needs to believe in order to count as such. Maybe it’s how they dress, or the music they listen to. Or just that anti-racists, for example, are so priggishly holier than thou. When it comes to identity politics, cool is cool. Rationale counts for naught. It’s all about image.

    In any event, I decided – and I decided this sight unseen – that it would be cool to be a denialist, because for a philosopher, even bad press is better than what we typically get, which is no press at all. Of course I don’t mean I want to be a denialist tout court. I want to be selective. I want to deny something that would earn me a level of vilification that would make me cool, but not so vile that I’d never get another dinner invitation in this town. That’s why, tempting as it was, the Holocaust just wasn’t an option.

    I toyed for a while with the Warren Report, and then the moon landing. But none of my students would remember the Kennedy assassination. And claiming that that “one small step for mankind” was in an airplane hanger out in the desert somewhere would just make me one of those crazies. Having met some, I’ve decided crazy isn’t cool. Cool requires at least plausible deniability.

    And so …? And so that’s why I’ve settled on anthropogenic global warming (AGW). One might have to be ignorant to be an AGW denier, but not necessarily crazy. And unlike defending pedophilia, AGW denial isn’t quite cringe-worthy enough that no one would want to have anything to do with me.

    The only problem, as already noted, is that since I don’t know anything about AGW, I don’t know what I’m required to not believe about it. And so the objective of this present exercise is to repair that lacuna, cuz … well, it just won’t do to know nothing whereof one’s speaks with an air of great authority.

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    A philosophers reflections on 'climate denial'

    by Dr. Paul Viminitz

    Of the things I care most about, AGW is near the bottom. But because, as George W. Bush put it, either you’re with us or you’re against them, I think I’d rather be interestingly wrong than politically correct. Accordingly I rehearse what I take to be the case for AGW denial, masquerading – so as to continue to get dinner invitations – as tongue in cheek.

    I think I was only about six or seven, but I remember it quite clearly. We were sitting at the dinner table and my sister, who was a few years older than me, asked my parents whether we Jews believe in an afterlife. I don’t remember their answer, but I do remember thinking how strange it is to ask someone else to tell me what I believe. And yet that’s precisely what I’m about to do.

    Unlike Christianity or Islam, Judaism is a non-doctrinal religion. Moreover, you don’t decide to be a Jew. You’re a Jew just in case, well, you are one. Your beliefs have nothing to do with it. But one might decide, for reasons having nothing to do with what she believes, that it would be ‘cool’ to be, say, a Buddhist, or a Flat-Earther, or a white supremacist, or whatever, and only then enquire into what one needs to believe in order to count as such. Maybe it’s how they dress, or the music they listen to. Or just that anti-racists, for example, are so priggishly holier than thou. When it comes to identity politics, cool is cool. Rationale counts for naught. It’s all about image.

    In any event, I decided – and I decided this sight unseen – that it would be cool to be a denialist, because for a philosopher, even bad press is better than what we typically get, which is no press at all. Of course I don’t mean I want to be a denialist tout court. I want to be selective. I want to deny something that would earn me a level of vilification that would make me cool, but not so vile that I’d never get another dinner invitation in this town. That’s why, tempting as it was, the Holocaust just wasn’t an option.

    I toyed for a while with the Warren Report, and then the moon landing. But none of my students would remember the Kennedy assassination. And claiming that that “one small step for mankind” was in an airplane hanger out in the desert somewhere would just make me one of those crazies. Having met some, I’ve decided crazy isn’t cool. Cool requires at least plausible deniability.

    And so …? And so that’s why I’ve settled on anthropogenic global warming (AGW). One might have to be ignorant to be an AGW denier, but not necessarily crazy. And unlike defending pedophilia, AGW denial isn’t quite cringe-worthy enough that no one would want to have anything to do with me.

    The only problem, as already noted, is that since I don’t know anything about AGW, I don’t know what I’m required to not believe about it. And so the objective of this present exercise is to repair that lacuna, cuz … well, it just won’t do to know nothing whereof one’s speaks with an air of great authority.

    Read more: https://judithcurry.com/2019/09/11/a...on-agw-denial/

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    China and India demand cash for climate action on eve of UN summit
    The millenials can pay for it. The progressives should start a private charity for China.
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    I see no Warmistas have any interest in the truth.

    Like I say, if they can't blame Whitey, they just don't care.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Will this be mentioned at their corporate Green Marketing festival?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Will this be mentioned at their corporate Green Marketing festival?

    As long as it does not interfere with their praying to plants time.

    Union Theological Seminary Holds ‘Confession to Plants’ in Chapel Ceremony
    https://www.breitbart.com/environmen...apel-ceremony/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post

    As long as it does not interfere with their praying to plants time.

    Union Theological Seminary Holds ‘Confession to Plants’ in Chapel Ceremony
    https://www.breitbart.com/environmen...apel-ceremony/
    I'll never understand that one. Plants love CO2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    I'll never understand that one. Plants love CO2.
    Indeed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    It's stunning that the world is supposed to think of China as a developing nation.
    To be fair, their rural population is as impoverished and backward as anywhere in the world. But I agree with your point.
    As far as India, aren't they vegetarians with millions of reincarnated relatives
    inhabiting cows wandering around farting CO2?
    Both countries have had plenty of years to get their act together to reduce rather
    than increase whatever phony climate issues the stupid U.N. wants to dictate.
    The whole thing is ridiculous.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Will this be mentioned at their corporate Green Marketing festival?
    And has Greta Thunberg been informed?

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