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    This doesn't have anything to do with the Waterway.
    "The majority of Saudi Arabia’s oil in 2018 went to countries in Asia — particularly Japan, China, South Korea and India. The United States imported $21.9 billion worth of oil from Saudi Arabia in 2018. The facility hit in the attacks accounts for more than half of Saudi Arabia’s output and 6 percent of the global supply."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...l/?arc404=true





    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    it's up to KSA

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/saudi...041930309.html
    Saudi Arabia joined a U.S.-led coalition to secure sea lines vital to oil shipping in the Middle East in the aftermath of a devastating attacks on Aramco’s oil facilities.

    The International Maritime Security Construct’s area of operation covers the Strait of Hormuz, the world’s most critical waterway for oil supplies, the Strait of Bab al-Mandab, the Gulf of Oman and the Persian Gulf. The move aims to support efforts to thwart threats to trade as well as guarantee energy security, the state-run Saudi Press Agency reported.

    A showdown between Iran and the Trump administration after the U.S. pulled out of the 2015 nuclear agreement with the Islamic Republic has threatened shipping in the region. Attacks on tankers and drones prompted the U.S. to call for a coalition of allies to protect ships passing through the area.

    About 40% of the world’s seaborne oil travels through the Strait of Hormuz. The U.S. and U.K. have stepped up their military presence in the region amid calls to ensure the waterway remains open.

    The International Maritime Security Construct task force is headquartered in Bahrain, and its members include the U.S., the U.K., Australia as well as the host country.

    Shaped like an inverted V, the waterway connects the Persian Gulf to the Indian Ocean, with Iran to its north and the United Arab Emirates and Oman to the south. Its shallow depth makes ships vulnerable to mines, and the proximity to land -- Iran, in particular -- leaves large tankers open to attack from shore-based missiles or interception by fast patrol boats and helicopters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    The nuke threat was not eliminated. Their military bases were off limits to inspectors.

    The pallets of money released to Iran has financed their terrorism.
    That is wrong on so many levels there "earl"

    No, the nuke threat wasn't totally eliminated, but it was postponed for a decade or so, given time for Iran to develop out of a belligerent position, the money released was thier money, and did you think one can suddenly move nuclear facilities to a military base overnight unnoticed? Sites were inspected, even Israel comfirmed such

    And what do we have now, a more aggressive Iran, brazen enough to launch drone attacks on another, and, a quicker, much quicker, route to developing their own bomb

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Obvious they are calling his bluff,
    What bluff arsecheese?

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    showing him they can disrupt the global economy any time they want,
    I haven't seen any disruption in the global economy. Do you have anything specific to point at? Apparently you are perfectly okay with a pariah nation attacking a peaceful neighbor; do you think they should get away with it? It's a simple yes or no.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    that his tough guy rhetoric is just that, rhetoric.
    Are you talking about Obama now? Remember that line in the sand he backed down from? But you were okay with that weren't you, you gargantuan dishonest hypocrite.

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    They have become more aggressive and now within a couple of years will have a bomb. Certainly they saw how Little Rocket Man played Trump
    Their economy is a shambles. Their people have been protesting. Firing missiles at neighboring states is a sign of weakness and desperation, not strength. How fucking dense are you arsecheese?

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    Additional sanctions ain't doing it,
    LIE and LAME. They have barely started implementation. Only a brain dead hack like you thinks they have an instantaneous effect.

    What is your solution; hugging them for attacking a neighboring member state of the UN? Dunce.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    and with Trump dissing our traditional allies, good luck formulating a coalition of meaningful meknees to jointly confront Iran. He can't go to the UN, they laughed in his face the last time he appeared there, and Russia and China are waiting to pick up the consequences of what ever happens to strengthen their positions
    Do you realize you have NEVER been right; about anything???

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    So, what is Trump going do?
    You'll find out. Meanwhile, we have to read your insufferable lies and stupidity whining about inaction. Obama did nothing for 8 fucking years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And that is it? If Iran has escalated their efforts, up the ante,
    What do you think works; doing NOTHING? Dunce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    and then Bush bombed Iraq who had nothing to do with 911
    Bush didn't "bomb" Iraq and Iraq had noting to do with 9-11 you insufferable idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    It was a great breakthrough that eliminated Iran's nuke threat.
    It did NOTHING to eliminate the threat of Iran's nukes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Tell that to Trump, he made it easier for them to develop such and in quicker time
    LIE and LAME. Yeah dumbass, Iran was able to create a nuke in 2 years! You morons never think before you type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    That is wrong on so many levels there "earl"

    No, the nuke threat wasn't totally eliminated, but it was postponed for a decade or so,
    How in the hell do you know this arsecheese??? Because Obama told you so? Because Kerry told you so?

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    given time for Iran to develop out of a belligerent position, the money released was thier money,
    You don't hand a terrorist sponsoring pariah state billions of dollars; even if it was theirs and in US banks. That's idiotic. Obama was a feckless ass kissing idiot.

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    and did you think one can suddenly move nuclear facilities to a military base overnight unnoticed? Sites were inspected, even Israel comfirmed such
    Did you think they weren't already there arsecheese. Not only are you DUMB, but NAIVE.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And what do we have now, a more aggressive Iran, brazen enough to launch drone attacks on another, and, a quicker, much quicker, route to developing their own bomb
    Wrong; what we see is a pariah state that is desperate and flailing at it's neighbors. Anyone with a scintilla of intelligence knows this is a sign of weakness, not streinght. Anyone with a brain the size of a pea would know that you don't stop putting pressure on despots and tyrants. You crank it up.

    Here is what is asinine about YOU and the PHONY media whining about this; you don't blame the pariah nation that has done an act of war on a peaceful neighboring state; you blame Trump. You're an idiot. You're a phony. You're a lying dunce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Obvious they are calling his bluff, showing him they can disrupt the global economy any time they want, that his tough guy rhetoric is just that, rhetoric. They have become more aggressive and now within a couple of years will have a bomb. Certainly they saw how Little Rocket Man played Trump

    Additional sanctions ain't doing it, and with Trump dissing our traditional allies, good luck formulating a coalition of meaningful meknees to jointly confront Iran. He can't go to the UN, they laughed in his face the last time he appeared there, and Russia and China are waiting to pick up the consequences of what ever happens to strengthen their positions

    So, what is Trump going do?
    Translation: Trumps to blame for a despotic regime in Iran that conducts acts of war on peaceful neighbors.

    That's the definition of ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    What bluff arsecheese?

    I haven't seen any disruption in the global economy. Do you have anything specific to point at? Apparently you are perfectly okay with a pariah nation attacking a peaceful neighbor; do you think they should get away with it? It's a simple yes or no.

    Are you talking about Obama now? Remember that line in the sand he backed down from? But you were okay with that weren't you, you gargantuan dishonest hypocrite.

    Their economy is a shambles. Their people have been protesting. Firing missiles at neighboring states is a sign of weakness and desperation, not strength. How fucking dense are you arsecheese?

    LIE and LAME. They have barely started implementation. Only a brain dead hack like you thinks they have an instantaneous effect.

    What is your solution; hugging them for attacking a neighboring member state of the UN? Dunce.

    Do you realize you have NEVER been right; about anything???

    You'll find out. Meanwhile, we have to read your insufferable lies and stupidity whining about inaction. Obama did nothing for 8 fucking years.
    Typical "truthie," phrase by phrase

    Ah, talking tough and doing nothing

    On the global economy - https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-tel...an-11568644126

    Usual Obama "whataboutism"

    How are sanctions, which "truthie" says haven't even started yet, causing people to protest, and, will lead to the Iranian people overthrowing their Gov't? Good luck with that one

    I guess then NK must be getting weaker given they have been firing missiles in the direction of their neighbors

    And the rest is just the usual "truthie" insults he uses to hide the fact he can't rebuttal with content, corny copy and pastes will probably follow now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Translation: Trumps to blame for a despotic regime in Iran that conducts acts of war on peaceful neighbors.

    That's the definition of ignorance.
    Ah, no, rather Trump hasn't a clue, conducting foreign policy like he's negotiating real estate deals and the opponent is Merv Griffin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    That is why we had an anti-Nuke Deal with them and 6 other countries. It was a great breakthrough that eliminated Iran's nuke threat. I am sure you were pleased when Obama did that.
    you do realize it didn't actually eliminate or even reduce anything, right?.....wait......that isn't completely true........it eliminated the sanctions against Iran........forgot about that......
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post

    No, the nuke threat wasn't totally eliminated, but it was postponed for a decade or so
    you realize that Iran didn't even slow down the process and reached the "limit" Obama set just this year (immediately they announced they would continue)........they never intended to postpone anything and never did.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    you do realize it didn't actually eliminate or even reduce anything, right?.....wait......that isn't completely true........it eliminated the sanctions against Iran........forgot about that......
    Indeed and the sanctions are now back with a vengeance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Obvious they are calling his bluff
    so bombing the Saudi oil fields is like a poker game and they just called a bluff with bombs?......
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