There is NO climate emergency

[Jack]

Of course they are, even mention that and you'll get the usual morons going on about Chernobyl and waste. The fact that it's impossible for molten salt reactors to go into meltdown and they actually can use 'nuclear waste', more correctly known as spent fuel, from conventional reactors is a massive selling point.

Why would they do that?

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Climate models predict disaster - but real world evidence shows no such thing

Dr. Jay Lehr & Tom Harris

Speaking at the 13th International Conference on Climate Change, held July 25 in Washington, DC, Dr. Roy W. Spencer of the University of Alabama in Huntsville said: “There is no climate crisis. Even if all the warming we’ve seen in any observational dataset is due to increasing CO2 (carbon dioxide), which I don’t believe it is, it’s probably too small for any person to feel in their lifetime.”

And yet, that same month, Democrat Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Earl Blumenauer and Democrat Senator Bernie Sanders introduced a non-binding resolution that demands a “national, social, industrial and economic mobilization” - to “halt, reverse, mitigate and prepare for the consequences of the climate emergency, and to restore the climate for future generations.” Six Democrat presidential candidates immediately supported the resolution, as a way to spur “sweeping reforms” to stem a “dangerous rise in global temperatures.”

In their view, apparently, asserting a climate emergency makes it a reality and justifies national or even global control and transformation of our energy, social, industrial, economic, legal and social systems.

Thus, in an effort to drum up support for its costly “carbon tax,” the Liberal government of Canada has also declared a climate emergency. So has Britain’s Parliament, to back up a call by opposition Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn for “rapid and dramatic action” to protect the environment , following weeks of protests by the Extinction Rebellion climate movement, the Reuters News Agency reported.

The Climate Mobilization group proclaimed that “Over 790 local governments in 17 countries have declared a climate emergency and committed to action to drive down emissions at emergency speed.”

In considering whether this makes any sense, let’s take a page out of Blumenauer’s book and, as he put it, “tell the truth about the nature of this threat.”

The so-called emergency is based on nothing but the over-active imaginations of activists who put too much faith in computer model forecasts, while ignoring historic records and observational data that tell us nothing extraordinary or unprecedented is happening - and demonstrate that the models are wrong.

NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies asserts that between 1880 and 2017 there has been only slightly more than 1 degree C (1.8 F) rise in the so-called global average temperature, despite a supposed 40% rise in atmospheric CO2 concentration. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) database of state-wide extreme weather records, arguably the best of its kind in the world, shows that so far in 2019 only one weather record has been set: the lowest temperature in Illinois history.

In 2018, the only records set were: the largest hailstone in Alabama history; the most rainfall in a 24-hour period in Hawaii; and the most precipitation in one year in Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina and West Virginia. Many of these records broke, sometimes barely, records that had stood for many decades.

In 2017, the only record set was for the fastest wind gust in California. No records were set in 2016. In 2015, only two records: the most precipitation in a year in Arkansas and the largest hailstone in Illinois history. In 2014, only one record: the most rainfall in a 24-hour period in New York.

And so it goes, year after year, as we move into the past with the occasional state record set, as one would expect due to natural climate variability. In the first 18+ years of the 21st century, only two states recorded their maximum temperatures: South Carolina in 2012 and South Dakota in 2006. Contrast that with 1936, when 15 states set their all-time maximum temperature records.

Meanwhile, NOAA’s updated coastal sea level tide gauge data for 2016 show no evidence that the rate of sea level rise is accelerating. Seas are rising no faster than they have for many decades.

NOAA’s hurricane records go back to 1851. The data show that for almost 12 consecutive years - October 24, 2005 (after Wilma) until August 25, 2017 (Harvey) - not one major or moderate (Category 3-5) hurricane made landfall in the continental United States. That is the longest such period in history. In 2018, for the first time ever, not one “violent” (F4-5) tornado touched down in the United States.

To the great frustration of climate alarmists, the real-world instrumental record clearly shows that, not only is no climate emergency underway, but today’s climate is actually quite stable. Aside from the drive for world socialism, the climate scare is based on only one thing: computer model forecasts of what some say could happen someday if we do not restrict our use of fossil fuels to reduce CO2 emissions.

However, the models do not work. That’s because they focus predominantly on greenhouse gases, and because scientists do not understand planetary climate processes well enough to know what mathematical equations to program into the models. Observations demonstrate that the actual rate of warming between 1979 and 2017 is one-third of what the average of 102 different climate models predicted. In fact, that climate model average is now almost one full degree Fahrenheit above what satellites have measured!

It is also important to realize that your own local weather forecasts just one week ahead are accurate only half the time. Let’s drill a bit deeper into this scandal.

For the better part of three decades, governments have financed more than one hundred efforts to model our planet. They continue to do so even though none of the models has been able to recreate (hindcast) the known past, or after a decade of study accurately predict what was to happen just ten years later.

People are led astray, because generally speaking, the public has no clue what mathematical models actually are, how they work, and what they can and cannot do. To provide a simple insight into this complex subject, before we build airplanes or buildings, we make small scale physical models and test them against the stress and performances that will be required of them when they are actually built.

When dealing with systems that are totally beyond our control, we try to describe them with computer programs or mathematical equations that we hope may give answers to questions we have about how the system works today and in the future. We attempt to understand the variables that affect the system’s operation. Then we alter the variables and see how the outcomes are affected. This is called sensitivity testing and is the very best use of mathematical models.

Historically, we were never foolish enough to make economic decisions based on predictions calculated from equations we think might control how nature works. Perhaps the most active area for mathematical modeling is the economy and stock market. No one has ever succeeded in getting it right, and they have far fewer variables than Earth’s climate, which is governed by many powerful natural forces.

Yet, today, in the climate sphere, we are doing just that - and using the models to justify massive changes in our energy and economic systems. While no one knows all the variables affecting climate, there are likely hundreds of them. Here are some important factors for which we have limited understanding:

1) seasonal, annual and decadal changes in solar irradiation; 2) energy flows between the ocean and atmosphere; 3) energy flows between the air and land; 4) balance between Earth’s water, water vapor and ice; 5) the impacts of clouds, both trapping heat below and preventing solar radiation from reaching Earth; 6) understanding the planet’s ice; 7) changes in mass among ice sheets, seal levels and glaciers; 8) our ability to factor in hurricanes and tornadoes; 9) the impact of vegetation on temperature; 10) tectonic movements on ocean bottoms; 11) differential rotation between Earth’s surface and its core; and 12) solar system magnetic field and gravitational interactions.

Despite this vast uncertainty, today’s modelers claim they can forecast our planet’s climate for decades or even a century in the future - by looking primarily or solely at “greenhouse gases.” And they want our leaders to manage our energy, economic, agricultural, transportation and other systems accordingly.

Yes, there is a climate-related emergency. It is the threat to our way of life in the free democratic world - imposed on us by climate alarmists, many of whom do not really care about climate change, people or the environment. It is an assault no less frightening and damaging than the wars that have plagued mankind since the dawn of time. It’s time for people and governments to stand up to the power-hungry alarmists.

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Lehr...emergency.pdfp

The Church of Global Warming has been predicting disaster in 12 years for some 40 years now.

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Let's see (scratching head), believe a million people world-wide, ... or believe some guy on the Internet?

False dichotomy fallacy.

You might try actually looking at the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law and how they don't allow for a 'greenhouse effect'.

* You can't create energy out of nothing. No gas or vapor is capable of warming the Earth using IR from the Earth's surface.

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"It is estimated that the population of the world reached one billion for the first time in 1804. It would be another 123 years before it reached two billion in 1927, but it took only 33 years to rise by another billion people, reaching three billion in 1960. Thereafter, the global population reached four billion in 1974, five billion in 1987, six billion in 1999 and, by some estimates, seven billion in October 2011"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_...ion_milestones

So you want to kill people to reduce the population? You first.

[Jack]

So you want to kill people to reduce the population? You first.

I support zero immigration into the US. Let other countries figure it out for themselves.

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Why would they do that?

Because they are uneducated morons that just spout bullshit.

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Children did not create this truancy get-together. It was adults using them. It's not a protest unless you are sacrificing something. Kids are easy to bribe. Guarantee that if this farce was scheduled for Saturday it would have been DOA.

[crowonapost]

Jesus fucking christ, what a surprise.
Three scientists analyzed the article and estimate its overall scientific credibility to be 'very low'.
A majority of reviewers tagged the article as: Cherry-picking, Flawed reasoning, Inaccurate, Misleading.

The cherry picking brigade is being meat puppet manipulated again as we accelerate down the hill of global annihilation.

You people will be a marker for everything wrong with humanity. I would laugh but I find you dangerous with your trump like stupidity.
So I'm not finding a common ground. That's a dangerous place for me and a lot of humanity.

You and folks like you may not get that, but larger humanity does and it's not owned by the money game.

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Jesus fucking christ, what a surprise.
Three scientists analyzed the article and estimate its overall scientific credibility to be 'very low'.
A majority of reviewers tagged the article as: Cherry-picking, Flawed reasoning, Inaccurate, Misleading.

The cherry picking brigade is being meat puppet manipulated again as we accelerate down the hill of global annihilation.

You people will be a marker for everything wrong with humanity. I would laugh but I find you dangerous with your trump like stupidity.
So I'm not finding a common ground. That's a dangerous place for me and a lot of humanity.

You and folks like you may not get that, but larger humanity does and it's not owned by the money game.

Three climate alarmists attack the article, big fucking deal!! Climate alarmists have been making totally unsubstantiated claims since the 70s based only on climate models, yet you're good with that. Seriously, change your name to Craponapost.

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Children did not create this truancy get-together. It was adults using them. It's not a protest unless you are sacrificing something. Kids are easy to bribe. Guarantee that if this farce was scheduled for Saturday it would have been DOA.

Yet these cunts constantly call people Nazis, what is the difference between this and the Hitler Youth?

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Yet these cunts constantly call people Nazis, what is the difference between this and the Hitler Youth?

The method is similar. It works on weak minded adults as well. It's easier to make them irrationally afraid of something
and when offered a quid pro quo like a day off from work or school an activity becomes irresistible.
How many of these already undereducated misguided kids would have been present if they were told that
they could attend only if they made up that missed school day on Saturday?

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I support zero immigration into the US. Let other countries figure it out for themselves.

Non-sequitur fallacy. So you want to kill people to reduce the population? You first.

[Into the Night]

What is the difference between this and the Hitler Youth?

The uniform. That's about it.

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Those kids are the next generation to rely on food stamps and welfare.

[Jack]

Non-sequitur fallacy. So you want to kill people to reduce the population? You first.

Let's see ... I said "I support zero immigration into the US."
Then you said "So you want to kill people to reduce the population?"

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