ThatOwlWoman (09-19-2019)
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ThatOwlWoman (09-19-2019)
The idea that the U.S. military is supreme has not been tested in decades. China and Russia each have hyper-sonic missiles. They could either give a few to Iran, or become involved themselves. How many sunken aircraft carriers are enough?
Is that what you call evidence that they didn't do it? I don't give a shit if they do prove it was Iran and Iran says that's right we did it, I am still against ANY military strike or answer on our part. All I am saying is that if it continues it IS going to become everyone's problem. All thanks to Trump.
Controlled Opposition (09-22-2019)
That is putting it mildly. I suspect that Iran is itching for someone, anyone, to strike them and when they do Iran will close the straits. They are sick of these sanctions and if they are to suffer they can easily make the rest of the world suffer. Iran has thousands of high tech missiles, many on mobile launchers that we could not get to even with a massive bombing campaign. How much of the world's oil passes through that strait? Iran can easily bring the world to it's knees as far as energy is concerned. They are sick of that dumbshit in Washington dictating to them,
Evidence or no evidence I am not for retaliation. I don't disagree with you for an instant that Trump is a liar capable of just about anything but it is becoming rather apparent who shot down our drone, who struck those ships in the straits and who is probably responsible for these strikes in Saudi Arabia. As much as Trump is a jackass I think it's obvious he doesn't want war either or he would have retaliated when they shot down our drone.
I may not have been around here for long but you aren't going to find anyone on this site who despises Trump or the republican more than I.
We have been in Afghanistan like 20 fucking years and can't seem to knock out key elements of Taliban infrastructure but you think we could do that in Iran? How many years were we in Iraq? The days of the US being tough guy that can take anyone out are over. Iran has thousands of guided missiles that are mobile and we would be lucky if we could take out 10% of them. All they have to do is close those straits and the rest of the world is in big trouble.
Hell, oil going to $300 a barrel might be good for the rest of the world. The right says alternative energy is too expensive well it won't be when oil becomes 5 times as expensive.
Iolo/Penderyn (09-20-2019)
The difficult for the US is that they fail to realize that if you try to destroy whole populations by sanctions and tariffs, the only alternatives being death or slavery, they have nothing to lose and will fight to the death.
Port Tack (09-20-2019)
Phantasmal (09-20-2019)
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
I'm not sure of your juvenile terminology but I know of NOONE from the left that complains about Bolton being fired. He is almost as big a flaming asshole as Trump is. Bolton was more than willing to start a war with Iran while the president really doesn't want one but is stupid enough to start one whether he wants one or not.
Bailing out of the Iran deal and placing more sanctions on Iran was fucking stupid as well as illegal, especially when they were following it. Now Iran is back on track to developing a nuclear weapon when otherwise they would not be doing so until at least 2030. How was that a smart thing to do? Trump is too fucking stupid to realize the ramifications of his actions and only wanted to solidify support with his dumbshit followers by killing something Obama. Not only that but he has solidified the Iranian peoples support for their regime just when they were beginning to appeal to a democratic way of thinking. Iran I believe now wants war and if they can start one their populace will be behind them 100%.
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