Notice how the right-wing Trumptards are all suddenly all on board with....

[Cinnabar]

...US intelligence reports?

Now that the reports are about Iranian involvement in the Saudi oil field bombing and not Trump's ties to Putin, that is.

So funny to see the likes of anattadukkhanoise, Barf Blowmore, Earl of Hurl, Shitin the ring, etc, ad nauseum, suddenly lining up to so enthusiastically express their belief in reports coming out of US intelligence, after the way they all so thoroughly trashed the credibility of these same agencies when they were telling us about Trump's involvement with Russia in 2016.

My gawd, what a bunch of nauseatingly and shamelessly dishonest phony-baloney asswipes the Trumptardian right is.

Excellent point. Trump threw intel under the bus...BUT NOT NOW. And now is when it's probably bull-shit a la Trump the lyin' king.

[Controlled Opposition]

What if we strike Iran and they immediately retaliate by sinking one of our aircraft carriers, or even an entire carrier battle group? What if we hit Iran and China and or Russia intervene?

Take it down a notch.

[Tranquillus in Exile]

this is precisely the type of thing I was referring to when I mentioned your lack of intelligence.......two years of the Mueller reports before you finally learned he had no illegal ties to the Kremlin........and all that time you were stupid enough to believe he had.......

The possibility that a presidential candidate might be in the pocket of an unfriendly foreign power needed to be investigated, starting in 2016 when the first reports emerged. Should the intel agencies have ignored it? They did their DUTY.

And you people have been screaming ever since about a Deep State / Obama / Clinton conspiracy, or whatever your sources tell you to say - for which you still have zero evidence.

Bottom line: if it comes to a contest between the saintly Trump and your country's safety, Trump wins. Got it.

[PostmodernProphet]

The possibility that a presidential candidate might be in the pocket of an unfriendly foreign power needed to be investigated, starting in 2016 when the first reports emerged. Should the intel agencies have ignored it? They did their DUTY.

and yet we've learned that the only reason people originally thought that a presidential candidate might be in the pocket of an unfriendly foreign power was a lie started by people within those intel agencies who were supporting a different presidential candidate...........in your mind does that perhaps say something about that "duty"?......

[Iolo/Penderyn]

If you try to starve a whole developed nation to death to improve your electoral chances, they may kick back at your puppets. Do the weirdoes really need a Secret Service to tell them that?

[ThatOwlWoman]

If Iran really, truly did it and they do it again, I think it's time to seriously consider a retaliatory strike.

If the world's oil supply gets disrupted, it could have serious economic implications.

I can't help but consider the possibility that the Israeli Mossad could be behind it.

They're good at that kind of thing.

Then let the Saudis do the retaliatory strike, not us. The gods know they've bought enough of our weapons systems over the years.

[ThatOwlWoman]

What if we strike Iran and they immediately retaliate by sinking one of our aircraft carriers, or even an entire carrier battle group? What if we hit Iran and China and or Russia intervene?

Take it down a notch.

Exactly. Let the Saudis deal with it.

[Tranquillus in Exile]

and yet we've learned that the only reason people originally thought that a presidential candidate might be in the pocket of an unfriendly foreign power was a lie started by people within those intel agencies

Where did you "learn" that? Source, please.

[Nomad]

What if we strike Iran and they immediately retaliate by sinking one of our aircraft carriers, or even an entire carrier battle group? What if we hit Iran and China and or Russia intervene?

Take it down a notch.

Was that last comment directed at me?

First of all, the idea that Iran could come close to sinking even one of our carriers much less an entire battle group is laughable.

On the other hand, the possibility of Russia (probably not China) is a possibility, but that makes Trump's coziness with them look even more suspicious. Was this all part of the plan to begin with? Iran acting at the behest of Russia, drone strikes Saudi oil fields, Trump acting as a puppet of the Kremlin, retaliates unilaterally creating a conflict that ends somehow up in Russia's favor.

Not entirely implausible.

But what I suggested was that if it happens again, or more than once more, forming a coalition of nation's ala Desert Storm, not going it alone.

[Eagle_Eye]

Exactly. Let the Saudis deal with it.

Whether we should or shouldn't retaliate should be up to the UN. The flow of oil is a necessary to all industrialized nations. The UN as the supposed world governing body is the group that should decide what actions to take.

I was listening to the radio the other day and this ME expert was saying that the Iranian people are just about fed up with the current regimen. He was saying that he thinks the regimen might be trying to goad the US into attacking so they can unify the people behind them against a common enemy. That makes sense why else would they attack a Saudi oil field?

[Nomad]

Then let the Saudis do the retaliatory strike, not us. The gods know they've bought enough of our weapons systems over the years.

Short sighted and easy to say from the living room sofa.

If the world's oil supply gets interrupted, it's everybody's problem not just the Saudis.

Afaic, if these attacks continue, it's the responsibility of everyone including other democratic countries, to put a stop to it just like we booted Iraq out of Kuwait in 1991.

[Nomad]

Whether we should or shouldn't retaliate should be up to the UN. The flow of oil is a necessary to all industrialized nations. The UN as the supposed world governing body is the group that should decide what actions to take.

I was listening to the radio the other day and this ME expert was saying that the Iranian people are just about fed up with the current regimen. He was saying that he thinks the regimen might be trying to goad the US into attacking so they can unify the people behind them against a common enemy. That makes sense why else would they attack a Saudi oil field?

Exactly.

Hadn't considered that motive, but it makes sense.

Good post.

[Nomad]

and yet we've learned that the only reason people originally thought that a presidential candidate might be in the pocket of an unfriendly foreign power was a lie started by people within those intel agencies who were supporting a different presidential candidate...........in your mind does that perhaps say something about that "duty"?......

Of all the Trumptard zeros on this forum, you are one of the most brainlessly gullible.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Whether we should or shouldn't retaliate should be up to the UN. The flow of oil is a necessary to all industrialized nations. The UN as the supposed world governing body is the group that should decide what actions to take.

I was listening to the radio the other day and this ME expert was saying that the Iranian people are just about fed up with the current regimen. He was saying that he thinks the regimen might be trying to goad the US into attacking so they can unify the people behind them against a common enemy. That makes sense why else would they attack a Saudi oil field?

Assuming that they did, of course. The Yemeni rebels were claiming credit. We have spy satellites looking closely at that region 24/7/365. The evidence will be found there -- if we can trust our intelligence agencies not to lie about it. Can we?

I agree with you about the UN. I don't want us involved.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Short sighted and easy to say from the living room sofa.

If the world's oil supply gets interrupted, it's everybody's problem not just the Saudis.

Afaic, if these attacks continue, it's the responsibility of everyone including other democratic countries, to put a stop to it just like we booted Iraq out of Kuwait in 1991.

I like Eagle Eye's UN suggestion, don't you? I don't think we should be the world's cops.