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    Default Capitalism only works with honesty and integrity... otherwise only the corrupt rise.

    The beautiful idea of capitalism is that if the government stays out of managing business, needs will be awoken by the market and the most efficient at providing those needs will prosper, and on paper, in theory this is absolutely true. Its really a beautiful thing the idea that left alone the market will sort itself out. It illustrates the hand of God in the equation, things do not need to be managed...

    The problem...

    Human greed that leads to corruption.

    We need a force to counteract the harmful effects of detect, corruption and excessive greed. This idea does not work, when corruption is allowed. IN a world where unethical behavior is allowed and hidden from the public, the most corrupt succeeds over and above the best or most efficient. When large corporations collude to fix prices, form monopolies and use tactics such as built in obsolescence the market is left with the most corrupt rising to the top, not the best. When an uneducated public is left with fewer choices in the market, or when they are lied to with marketing tactics the beauty of capitalism is corrupted. This is why American has, in many markets, lost its edge. This is why other systems beat us with superior products. This is why an incompetent trust fund baby is wealthy while the hard working intelligent person born into poverty does not rise to the top.

    The dream of capitalism is sullied by corruption.
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    the power of a better idea is the promise of capitalism



    Capitalism has SOME self regulating aspects

    It keeps the money moving in a society



    without a leash this dog turns into a wolf



    Proper fettering with regulations, policing and a tax level that provides the funds to do all this regulating, policing and taxing makes the system perform wonderfully for a nation




    unfettered it can be corrupted nearly instantly

    and TURN on the nations it inhabits



    I LOVE CAPITALISM


    I AM A CAPITALIST



    but no machine runs perpetually without proper maintaining



    only an idiot would think a human economy has an automatic setting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    The beautiful idea of capitalism is that if the government stays out of managing business, needs will be awoken by the market and the most efficient at providing those needs will prosper, and on paper, in theory this is absolutely true. Its really a beautiful thing the idea that left alone the market will sort itself out. It illustrates the hand of God in the equation, things do not need to be managed...

    The problem...

    Human greed that leads to corruption.

    We need a force to counteract the harmful effects of detect, corruption and excessive greed. This idea does not work, when corruption is allowed. IN a world where unethical behavior is allowed and hidden from the public, the most corrupt succeeds over and above the best or most efficient. When large corporations collude to fix prices, form monopolies and use tactics such as built in obsolescence the market is left with the most corrupt rising to the top, not the best. When an uneducated public is left with fewer choices in the market, or when they are lied to with marketing tactics the beauty of capitalism is corrupted. This is why American has, in many markets, lost its edge. This is why other systems beat us with superior products. This is why an incompetent trust fund baby is wealthy while the hard working intelligent person born into poverty does not rise to the top.

    The dream of capitalism is sullied by corruption.
    You hit on it with ethics and morality, which need to serve as as the necessary check, unfortunately, both are at a low level today, and having a President who models the opposite doesn't help, how many times have you seen the predictable response to questioning Trump's behavior, "he didn't break any laws did he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    You hit on it with ethics and morality, which need to serve as as the necessary check, unfortunately, both are at a low level today, and having a President who models the opposite doesn't help, how many times have you seen the predictable response to questioning Trump's behavior, "he didn't break any laws did he?
    Trump is the perfect example of why capitalism does not work in an unethical society. The biggest and best liars rise to the top, not the smartest and hardest working.
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    You should see what happens with socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitecaps View Post
    You should see what happens with socialism.
    I spent a lot of time in Scandinavia, It is amazing.

    The happiest nations in the world.
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    Nailed it, which is why the very idea of regulation is a debate negation point with corrupt rightards.

    They take the same philosophical view of regulation en masse as the NRA does.

    Oppsoe everything and we will be better off than if we think about each thing in its own nature and decide what is best.
    That takes effort, best to to declare war to get reelected. Because their constituents are

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitecaps View Post
    You should see what happens with socialism.
    You are an ax murdering wife beating tax cheat. See how lying works? It get nowhere.

    Got truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    The beautiful idea of capitalism is that if the government stays out of managing business, needs will be awoken by the market and the most efficient at providing those needs will prosper, and on paper, in theory this is absolutely true. Its really a beautiful thing the idea that left alone the market will sort itself out. It illustrates the hand of God in the equation, things do not need to be managed...

    The problem...

    Human greed that leads to corruption.

    We need a force to counteract the harmful effects of detect, corruption and excessive greed. This idea does not work, when corruption is allowed. IN a world where unethical behavior is allowed and hidden from the public, the most corrupt succeeds over and above the best or most efficient. When large corporations collude to fix prices, form monopolies and use tactics such as built in obsolescence the market is left with the most corrupt rising to the top, not the best. When an uneducated public is left with fewer choices in the market, or when they are lied to with marketing tactics the beauty of capitalism is corrupted. This is why American has, in many markets, lost its edge. This is why other systems beat us with superior products. This is why an incompetent trust fund baby is wealthy while the hard working intelligent person born into poverty does not rise to the top.

    The dream of capitalism is sullied by corruption.
    Always funny when a dishonest unethical piece of shit shows concern for others 'honesty and integrity'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    The beautiful idea of capitalism is that if the government stays out of managing business, needs will be awoken by the market and the most efficient at providing those needs will prosper, and on paper, in theory this is absolutely true. Its really a beautiful thing the idea that left alone the market will sort itself out. It illustrates the hand of God in the equation, things do not need to be managed...

    The problem...

    Human greed that leads to corruption.

    We need a force to counteract the harmful effects of detect, corruption and excessive greed. This idea does not work, when corruption is allowed. IN a world where unethical behavior is allowed and hidden from the public, the most corrupt succeeds over and above the best or most efficient. When large corporations collude to fix prices, form monopolies and use tactics such as built in obsolescence the market is left with the most corrupt rising to the top, not the best. When an uneducated public is left with fewer choices in the market, or when they are lied to with marketing tactics the beauty of capitalism is corrupted. This is why American has, in many markets, lost its edge. This is why other systems beat us with superior products. This is why an incompetent trust fund baby is wealthy while the hard working intelligent person born into poverty does not rise to the top.

    The dream of capitalism is sullied by corruption.
    Nothing is more corrupt than politicians promising low information voters free stuff.

    Where did you plagiarize this from? I would like to see the source.

    How is Trump corrupt? The FBI's actions towards Trump were certainly corrupt. The PHONY media's reporting towards Trump are certainly corrupt.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    You hit on it with ethics and morality, which need to serve as as the necessary check, unfortunately, both are at a low level today, and having a President who models the opposite doesn't help, how many times have you seen the predictable response to questioning Trump's behavior, "he didn't break any laws did he?
    How does Trump represent corruption? What laws has he broken? We ask that question because it is relevant. I know that Fascist lefties like you hate it when you are asked to justify your wild eyed and moronic claims against Trump; but as far as I know, we still are a Constitutional Republic of laws and not the Fascistic third world shit hole you leftists want to turn us into.

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Trump is the perfect example of why capitalism does not work in an unethical society. The biggest and best liars rise to the top, not the smartest and hardest working.
    How is capitalism not working in America right now? Specifics please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I spent a lot of time in Scandinavia, It is amazing.
    The happiest nations in the world.
    I don't think you have ever left your mom's basement. Scandinavian countries are capitalistic.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Nailed it, which is why the very idea of regulation is a debate negation point with corrupt rightards.

    They take the same philosophical view of regulation en masse as the NRA does.

    Oppsoe everything and we will be better off than if we think about each thing in its own nature and decide what is best.
    That takes effort, best to to declare war to get reelected. Because their constituents are

    IDIOTS
    ^^Still stuck on moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Got truth?
    I wish you had some.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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