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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleeding heart View Post
    Tell me shit for brains how can an inanimate object be racist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleeding heart View Post
    Tell me shit for brains how can an inanimate object be racist?

    I dunno but you’re an inanimate object and a racist maybe you can explain it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Un huh and it was originally called the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia and had been pretty much forgotten by history even in the South until the 1950’s when Southern White supremicist began using as a symbol of white supremacy and as opposition to the Civil Rights movement.
    I agree and like I said before why did they pick that symbol? It's clear that using the battle flag the most recognized flag of the confederacy that would cause fear and anger in black people. I maintain that if people had ignored that symbol the supremacist would have dropped it and tried something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleeding heart View Post
    Why do you think they do that? The reason is they know it will piss people off. So by getting their panties in a wad railing about the confederacy they are playing right into the hands of the hate groups that use those symbols against them. Don't you think that if Japanese people railed about atomic symbols people who hate the Japanese would use those symbols? If people would just live their lives instead of worrying about past injustices that would go a long way to defeat the hate groups.
    It was adopted by the KKK as well as other white supremacist groups. There were a few KKK groups active in and around the St. Louis area when we lived there. Occasionally they would hand out recruitment flyers (mostly in rural that were predominantly white, of course -- wouldn't dare try that in a more diverse area! lol). Ppl who received them would sometimes contact the news stations about it, and they would show them on the air. They almost always had the stars and bars along with a cross and other symbols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleeding heart View Post
    I agree and like I said before why did they pick that symbol? It's clear that using the battle flag the most recognized flag of the confederacy that would cause fear and anger in black people. I maintain that if people had ignored that symbol the supremacist would have dropped it and tried something else.
    Probably, and then we'd have ppl defending *that* symbol, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    I dunno but you’re an inanimate object and a racist maybe you can explain it?
    You fucking lefties love to throw that word around. It doesn't mean anything to me as I just consider the souse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleeding heart View Post
    Oh and just how am I a racist? You fucking lefties love to throw that word around. It doesn't mean anything to me as I just consider the souse.
    Because you hate yourself for being black? Just a guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Probably, and then we'd have ppl defending *that* symbol, eh?
    I am sure of it. But the point is if people don't react then there would be no need to defend anything and the supremacist would drop it and look for something else. It's like when people call me names I just ignore them and don't give them the satisfaction. If more people did that there would be less conflict in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    It was adopted by the KKK as well as other white supremacist groups. There were a few KKK groups active in and around the St. Louis area when we lived there. Occasionally they would hand out recruitment flyers (mostly in rural that were predominantly white, of course -- wouldn't dare try that in a more diverse area! lol). Ppl who received them would sometimes contact the news stations about it, and they would show them on the air. They almost always had the stars and bars along with a cross and other symbols.
    Which proves my point! Ignore the symbol and it become ineffective.

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    This subject like mass shooting have one thing in common. The more publicity given to an event or symbol the more people will copycat it. AND NO I AM NOT EQUAITING WAVING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG WITH MASS SHOOTINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleeding heart View Post
    I am sure of it. But the point is if people don't react then there would be no need to defend anything and the supremacist would drop it and look for something else. It's like when people call me names I just ignore them and don't give them the satisfaction. If more people did that there would be less conflict in this country.
    I disagree. To ignore this kind of stuff is what keeps it alive. I'm sure many ppl in the 1930s thought the same about the swastika, the rallies, the book burnings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleeding heart View Post
    Tell me shit for brains how can an inanimate object be racist?

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    If we erase our past .... it will repeat itself .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleeding heart View Post
    I agree and like I said before why did they pick that symbol? It's clear that using the battle flag the most recognized flag of the confederacy that would cause fear and anger in black people. I maintain that if people had ignored that symbol the supremacist would have dropped it and tried something else.
    Why would that matter? Just like the Civil War they lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I disagree. To ignore this kind of stuff is what keeps it alive. I'm sure many ppl in the 1930s thought the same about the swastika, the rallies, the book burnings.
    Two completely different circumstances. first the Nazi rise to power.
    Key Facts

    1. The Nazi Party’s meteoric rise to power began in 1930, when it attained 107 seats in Germany’s parliament, the Reichstag. In July 1932, the Nazi Party became the largest political party in the Reichstag with 230 representatives

    2. In the final years of the Weimar Republic (1930 to 1933), the government ruled by emergency decree because it could not attain a parliamentary majority. Political and economic instability, coupled with voter dissatisfaction with the status quo, benefitted the Nazi Party.

    3. As a result of the Nazis’ mass support, German president Paul von Hindenburg appointed Hitler chancellor on January 30, 1933. His appointment paved the way to the Nazi dictatorship after Hindenburg’s death in August 1934.
    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/conte...-rise-to-power

    As you can see one is political the other racial.


    Did demonstrating about what is considered racist items do anything to help the civil rights movement? No it didn't what Dr. King preached and demonstrated about weren't things but real social inequities. That is what brought about civil rights.


    This demonstrating about flags or statues does nothing but make people feel good even the removal of these things accomplishes nothing of substance. So if you wish to continue please do it is a feel good effort nothing more.

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