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    Default "Justice Sotomayor warns the Supreme Court is doing “extraordinary” favors for Trump"

    "Granting a stay pending appeal should be an “extraordinary” act. Unfortunately, it appears the Government has treated this exceptional mechanism as a new normal. Historically, the Government has made this kind of request rarely; now it does so reflexively. Not long ago, the Court resisted the shortcut the Government now invites."

    "To translate this paragraph a bit, a “stay pending appeal” is an order that suspends a lower court’s decision while the case is working its way through an appeals court."

    "As Sotomayor notes, the Supreme Court rarely granted such stays in the past, and for good reason. Because the Supreme Court is the final word on any legal dispute, it typically likes to hang back for a while as lower court judges wrestle with new legal questions. A lower court decision will eventually work its way through the appeals process and can be reversed by the Supreme Court if it is wrong about the law."

    "The Court historically has preferred to give lower court judges time to consider novel legal questions so that the justices can be informed by those judges’ opinions before the Supreme Court hands down a final word. Sotomayor’s warning is that her Court may no longer be exercising such caution — at least when the Trump administration comes knocking"

    "A majority of the Supreme Court, in other words, appears to be sacrificing caution and care in favor of a process that makes it easier for the Trump administration to implement its policies."

    "In less than three years, the Solicitor General has filed at least 20 applications for stays in the Supreme Court (including 10 during the October 2018 Term alone).”

    "By contrast, during the 16 years of the George W. Bush and Obama Administrations, the Solicitor General filed a total of eight such applications — averaging one every other Term.”

    "The Trump administration, in other words, is behaving as if the Court is its personal concierge service — and the Republican-controlled Supreme Court is doing little to disabuse the administration of this idea."

    https://www.vox.com/2019/9/12/208623...t-favors-trump

    I thought conservatives were all about judicial restraint, least that was supposedly one of their guiding principles up until 1/2017

    I actually find it surprising that Justice Sotomayor could possibly be that naive to think the Trump appointees were actual Supreme Court Justices rather than the political tools that Trump wanted to "cover his back."

    And the saddest figure in all of this is Roberts, who even once said that he didn't want his Court to be remembered in history as an obvious political partisan vehicle

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    I actually find it surprising that Justice Sotomayor could possibly be that naive to think the Trump appointees were actual Supreme Court Justices rather than the political tools that Trump wanted to "cover his back."
    ^pathetic pandering to partisanship.

    Think exigent circumstances - 1,000,000+ illegals being apprehended per year

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "Granting a stay pending appeal should be an “extraordinary” act. Unfortunately, it appears the Government has treated this exceptional mechanism as a new normal. Historically, the Government has made this kind of request rarely; now it does so reflexively. Not long ago, the Court resisted the shortcut the Government now invites."

    "To translate this paragraph a bit, a “stay pending appeal” is an order that suspends a lower court’s decision while the case is working its way through an appeals court."

    "As Sotomayor notes, the Supreme Court rarely granted such stays in the past, and for good reason. Because the Supreme Court is the final word on any legal dispute, it typically likes to hang back for a while as lower court judges wrestle with new legal questions. A lower court decision will eventually work its way through the appeals process and can be reversed by the Supreme Court if it is wrong about the law."

    "The Court historically has preferred to give lower court judges time to consider novel legal questions so that the justices can be informed by those judges’ opinions before the Supreme Court hands down a final word. Sotomayor’s warning is that her Court may no longer be exercising such caution — at least when the Trump administration comes knocking"

    "A majority of the Supreme Court, in other words, appears to be sacrificing caution and care in favor of a process that makes it easier for the Trump administration to implement its policies."

    "In less than three years, the Solicitor General has filed at least 20 applications for stays in the Supreme Court (including 10 during the October 2018 Term alone).”

    "By contrast, during the 16 years of the George W. Bush and Obama Administrations, the Solicitor General filed a total of eight such applications — averaging one every other Term.”

    "The Trump administration, in other words, is behaving as if the Court is its personal concierge service — and the Republican-controlled Supreme Court is doing little to disabuse the administration of this idea."

    https://www.vox.com/2019/9/12/208623...t-favors-trump

    I thought conservatives were all about judicial restraint, least that was supposedly one of their guiding principles up until 1/2017

    I actually find it surprising that Justice Sotomayor could possibly be that naive to think the Trump appointees were actual Supreme Court Justices rather than the political tools that Trump wanted to "cover his back."


    And the saddest figure in all of this is Roberts, who even once said that he didn't want his Court to be remembered in history as an obvious political partisan vehicle
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Like Ginsberg, Sotomayor is being UNETHICAL.

    Trump works much harder than Obama and Bush. She needs to keep her mouth shut and try to keep up.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Like Ginsberg, Sotomayor is being UNETHICAL.

    Trump works much harder than Obama and Bush. She needs to keep her mouth shut and try to keep up.
    Sotomayor is barely qualified.. Ginsburg has become a political hack

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Like Ginsberg, Sotomayor is being UNETHICAL.

    Trump works much harder than Obama and Bush. She needs to keep her mouth shut and try to keep up.
    How is authoring a dissent opinion "unethical?"

    She is just highlighting the facts:

    "In less than three years, the Solicitor General has filed at least 20 applications for stays in the Supreme Court (including 10 during the October 2018 Term alone). By contrast, during the 16 years of the George W. Bush and Obama Administrations, the Solicitor General filed a total of eight such applications — averaging one every other Term.

    How is she wrong "chiwawa?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    How is authoring a dissent opinion "unethical?"

    She is just highlighting the facts:

    "In less than three years, the Solicitor General has filed at least 20 applications for stays in the Supreme Court (including 10 during the October 2018 Term alone). By contrast, during the 16 years of the George W. Bush and Obama Administrations, the Solicitor General filed a total of eight such applications — averaging one every other Term.

    How is she wrong "chiwawa?"
    She is supposed to be apolitical.

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

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    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Sotomayor is barely qualified.. Ginsburg has become a political hack
    Excuse me, but Sotomayor was easily approved by a partisan Senate, and Ginsburg is recognized as a honorable Justice, can't say the same for Neil and especially Brett, who even Roberts had reservations about sitting on his Court. Facts Stotmayor revealed point out the obvious, their Trump's tools

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    She is supposed to be apolitical.

    She is which is why she is now pointing out the obvious, I just can't believe that she is that naive to at one time think otherwise

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    a stay pending appeal should be a matter of course when the decision of the lower court is wrong........hasn't Trump won every appeal so far?......the last one was a 7-2 decision in his favor.....and one of the two was Ginsberg who's been dead for months.........
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    The vote was 7 to 2, this wasn't even close. Pretending that this was just the two that were appointed by Trump is idiotic. If such were the case the vote would have been 7 to 2 in her favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Like Ginsberg, Sotomayor is being UNETHICAL.

    Trump works much harder than Obama and Bush. She needs to keep her mouth shut and try to keep up.
    You define ethical as serving Trump and the wealthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    You define ethical as serving Trump and the wealthy.
    you do relize minority jobs are at the highest level under Trump, and wage gains have flowed to the lowest paid workers more then any other income percentile?

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    After doing ‘extraordinary favors’ for abortion, gay marriage and Obamacare why should SCOTUS get out of the extraordinary favor business?

    All of a sudden.
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