Sure you want Medicare for all ?

[Celticguy]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...-full-of-waste

This doesnt even include the built in and legal waste.
Throw that in and it goes WAY up.

Sadly, Medicare's waste is not limited to the hospice benefit. An auditor revealed that Medicare Advantage had an improper payment rate of 10% in 2016. That's equivalent to over $16 billion. That same year, the conventional Medicare program made $41 billion in erroneous payments.

[CharacterAssassin]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...-full-of-waste

This doesnt even include the built in and legal waste.
Throw that in and it goes WAY up.

So? Address the waste, dunce.

[Celticguy]

So? Address the waste, dunce.

Medicare is still trying to sort out waste from three years ago.
They suck at it.

[CharacterAssassin]

Medicare is still trying to sort out waste from three years ago.
They suck at it.

So? And that can't be improved upon? That's a rather fatalistic and unreasonable assessment of things.

[Celticguy]

So? And that can't be improved upon? That's a rather fatalistic and unreasonable assessment of things.

Theyve had generations to do that.
The problem is that there is no urgency.
Profit motive gives the needed urgency.

[gfm7175]

So? And that can't be improved upon? That's a rather fatalistic and unreasonable assessment of things.

Yet, private insurance can't be "improved upon" also??

[CharacterAssassin]

Theyve had generations to do that.
The problem is that there is no urgency.
Profit motive gives the needed urgency.

Profit motive also encourages cutting corners and doing the bare minimum necessary.

[CharacterAssassin]

Yet, private insurance can't be "improved upon" also??

Irrelevant to what I posted. This isn't about private insurance. Inversion fallacy.

[gfm7175]

Irrelevant to what I posted. This isn't about private insurance. Inversion fallacy.

Completely relevant to your post.

Fallacy Fallacy.

[CharacterAssassin]

Completely relevant to your post.

Fallacy Fallacy.

^^ Double Mushroom Retard Fallacy. Right on time.

Thanks for admitting what you posted was irrelevant to what I posted.

Dummy.

[Gonzomin]

Medicare for all does not mean our standing medicare. It would be dramatically changed. Medicare is a blueprint. But what ails it , will be corrected. Medicare is a much nicer system. You do not fight for coverage and service. They send you emails telling you what preventative care you qualify for. Medicare saves money by keeping you healthier and preventing illness. Our regular system makes more by keeping you sick and going for treatment.
Our present system is wrong in concept and abusive in practice.

[Celticguy]

Medicare for all does not mean our standing medicare. It would be dramatically changed. Medicare is a blueprint. But what ails it , will be corrected. Medicare is a much nicer system. You do not fight for coverage and service. They send you emails telling you what preventative care you qualify for. Medicare saves money by keeping you healthier and preventing illness. Our regular system makes more by keeping you sick and going for treatment.
Our present system is wrong in concept and abusive in practice.

You may not fight for coverage but the docs do and even then the answer is generally no.
If Congress/CMA has been unable to fix Medicare/Medicaid in 50 years what makes you think a new and improved one is possible ?
AMA will still write the legislation and they will not do themselves any harm.
Your best bet is to shutter Medicare/Medicaid and buy commercial policies. They are far better at efficient healthcare.

[Gonzomin]

You may not fight for coverage but the docs do and even then the answer is generally no.
If Congress/CMA has been unable to fix Medicare/Medicaid in 50 years what makes you think a new and improved one is possible ?
AMA will still write the legislation and they will not do themselves any harm.
Your best bet is to shutter Medicare/Medicaid and buy commercial policies. They are far better at efficient healthcare.

The doctors are a big part of the financial abuse. They will not be eliminated. Clinics and labs also bilk the system. PHARM and drug companies loot us . The whole system needds to be redone. Medicare is a good starting point.

[Celticguy]

The doctors are a big part of the financial abuse. They will not be eliminated. Clinics and labs also bilk the system. PHARM and drug companies loot us . The whole system needds to be redone. Medicare is a good starting point.

No. Medicare is a bad starting point as its the source of the problem.

[PostmodernProphet]

at least everyone except Biden agrees that Obamacare sucks......