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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Lie. Changing the Constitution is changing the Constitution. You can't couch it in lies.

    For what has not been amended, yes.

    WRONG. The Court does not have authority to change the Constitution by line item veto!

    The Court does not have authority to change the Constitution.
    Again, they are not changing the Constitution, don't know why you keep repeating that lie, rather interpreting it, they are not changing anything

    And to make it even more relevant, show us verbatim where in the Second Amendment, the actual words, that anyone in America can own any kind of weapon they want without any restrictions.

    Even the gun manufacturers advertising you are regurgitating is their interpretation on what the Amendmemt says, fortunately the definative interpretation is that of the Supreme Court, and they have ruled guns can be regulated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Those were liberals who were attacking. Who cares.
    ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The military so far hasn't, but the BATF has.
    Yes, another gov't agency that should be abolished, they have too much power.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Again, they are not changing the Constitution, don't know why you keep repeating that lie, rather interpreting it, they are not changing anything
    You are arguing a change in the Constitution by the Supreme Court. They do not have that authority.
    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And to make it even more relevant, show us verbatim where in the Second Amendment, the actual words, that anyone in America can own any kind of weapon they want without any restrictions.
    There is no clause that specifies a weapon by type of brand. Nothing in Article I specifies a weapon by type or brand either.
    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Even the gun manufacturers advertising you are regurgitating is their interpretation on what the Amendmemt says, fortunately the definative interpretation is that of the Supreme Court, and they have ruled guns can be regulated
    The Supreme Court does not have authority to change the constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolongertolerant View Post
    ??
    It wasn't just liberals being shot. It was liberals that were attacking the national guard troops that were being shot. Good riddance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    One thing that needs to be added in about the second amendment is an understanding of mental illness that didn't exist back in the day.
    The 2nd Amendment makes no mention of "mental illness". Who gets to determine who is "mentally fit" to own a gun? Why do they get such power over people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Another is the realization that you have access to all available civilian arms but it's societies prerequisite of what are civilian arms.
    You don't get to decide which guns people can and can't have. See the 2nd Amendment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    This has been a no brainer but the NRA and other money interests in government have warped this.
    No. YOU are warping the 2nd Amendment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    People in the military don't even carry large arms around all the time. It's impractical and stupid.
    Okay.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Still, we have people that think they not only need
    You don't get to determine what another person "needs" or "doesn't need".

    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    weapons outside the guise of civilian grade
    What is a weapon "outside the guise of civilian grade"?

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    but they should carry them everywhere.
    Fine with me.

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    You nuts aren't in a warzone getting lunch out.
    Irrelevant.

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    Some even think they should have access to dangerous war arms on a regular basis that only certain people in the military use on an as-needed basis.
    Define "dangerous war arms".

    People should be able to keep and bear ALL arms. Read the 2nd Amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Mental illness didn't exist "back in the day"? Who the hell are you trying to fool?
    To be fair, Jane wasn't asserting that mental illness didn't exist back in the day, but rather, she was asserting that we have more understanding of mental illness now than we did back in the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    "Another is the realization that you have access to all available civilian arms but it's societies prerequisite of what are civilian arms." WTF?? What the hell does that mean?
    I have no idea what she was trying to say there... In any event, it is a rejection of the 2nd Amendment.

    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    You know nothing whatsoever about the NRA. Don't try to peddle your oblivious bullshit, no one's buying it.
    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    No, and neither do we. Myself, I have no interest in lugging a rifle around unless it's at the gun range or the woods while hunting. It's kinda stupid in my opinion.
    That said, you don't know shit. "Outside the guise of civilian grade"? WTF? I have guns more powerful than a soldier's sidearms. I have actual military issued side
    arms. I don't carry them everywhere and no one I know does either.

    You don't think I should own service weapons. Tuff shit, I do. So do millions of other Americans, and safely I might add. Pick a subject you know at least something
    about, firearms is not one.
    Correct. She has little understanding about firearms. She just wants to punish all law-abiding citizens for what some criminals did.

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