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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    One of the facts conservatives fail to understand regarding health care is that when less people have it it costs the rest of us more. When people flock to the ER due to a lack of preventive care it drives hospital costs up for everyone including the insurance companies who pay for clients medical care. In the end, the cost winds up with the consumer

    Easy being a tough guy with rhetoric, but if you think thru the actual issue, which conservatives seldom do on any issue, it has effects far beyond just getting health care
    One of the facts that liberals don't understand is that if they want to force people to buy insurance, there is precedent for that at the State level. And that conservatives from outside your state care little about laws you pass in your state.

    The other thing that liberals will never understand is that individuals making their own decisions in a free market is always more efficient that FedCo or StateCo making decisions for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    One of the facts conservatives fail to understand regarding health care is that when less people have it it costs the rest of us more. When people flock to the ER due to a lack of preventive care it drives hospital costs up for everyone including the insurance companies who pay for clients medical care. In the end, the cost winds up with the consumer

    Easy being a tough guy with rhetoric, but if you think thru the actual issue, which conservatives seldom do on any issue, it has effects far beyond just getting health care
    They don't want to get it. It is math. It is simple math.

    I will reiterate, for the umpteenth time. If society makes the decision, no money, no insurance then NO MEDICAL CARE, then state it and codify it. Doctors, hospitals, providers, states, counties will be held harmless. Make it date certain with plenty of notice and get notify everyone up and down the healthcare channels. If you can't afford care, it's no one else's RESPONSIBILITY. Do not show up at any service providers doors. You won't be treated.

    It must be made LEGAL not to TREAT!

    Republicans could start processes and legislation YESTERDAY. And everyone of them knows it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Where does it say in the Constitution Americans have the "right" to a semiautomatic weapon?
    ^ Has no clue about what a semi-auto is yet would love to regulate them.

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    Biden, Bernie and Trump are too damn old. Trump has never shown himself to be bright and he is fading before our eyes. He is increasingly an embarrassment. The hurricane fiasco was absurd and petty. He has serious mental and maturity problems.
    If elected any of them will be pushing 80. Bernie does not show mental erosion, but Biden is shaky and Trump is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Where does it say Democrats despise anyone? An array of conservatives say they dislike the coastal States, the urban centers, the educated, etc.,etc., does that mean they despise them?
    Conservatives have their own issues/hypocrisies but that's not what I was addressing. Niftinickel made it pretty clear how he feels with his multiple posts ITT. And the general rhetoric/attitude toward working class people that don't vote the correct way has been made abundantly clear whether its from message board posters or the Democratic President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    You’d be surprise how many idiot Americans who “claim to be to the left” don’t want free healthcare or education. They rather side with racist in agreeing no nigga or Mexican should get free healthcare with their tax dollars.

    Joe Biden is one of those people, he sides with racist.

    Nobody likes paying up the ass for their healthcare except the wealthy.
    Rich people can pay for healthcare with couch change. The cost is no problem for them. It cripples the rest of us.

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    I did not watch that farcical clown show. I had better things to do like....watching football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    And STILL LEADING TRUMP 9-12 PTS. on every poll.
    Take the bet! After all, a Party of the Jackass victory is all but finished right?

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...to-participate
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Socialized medicine is the standard for the entire civilized world.
    We cannot be considered part of the latter as long as we don't have the former.

    Pay for healthcare with your taxes and all the money goes to the healthcare.
    Pay for health care with your premiums and half of the money goes to insurance company profits.
    It's a no-brainer, and only American conservatives are too stupid to realize that.

    Ultimately, Medicare for all is only a half-way measure.
    That's public funding of private services which is still too expensive.
    We need public services--a National Health Service just like the United Kingdom's.
    The entire health care industry from prenatal to hospice care should be deprivatized.
    There are plenty of other industries to be run for profit.
    Like prisons, health care should not be one of them.

    Also, if you WANT to have private insurance, that's your business--but as with public schools, you'll have to pay the taxes for public health care anyway.
    That's how civilized and intelligent nations operate.
    How the hell long is it going to take us to become one of those?

    That's why I favor separate Blue and Red Americas. We don't have compatible values and will never be content living with the same government.
    It would be hard to find a bigger pile of stupid than this. But alas, that is all we seem to get from the left these days. Stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    You’d be surprise how many idiot Americans who “claim to be to the left” don’t want free healthcare or education. They rather side with racist in agreeing no nigga or Mexican should get free healthcare with their tax dollars.

    Joe Biden is one of those people, he sides with racist.

    Nobody likes paying up the ass for their healthcare except the wealthy.
    ^^Race hustling moron on steroids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleeding heart View Post
    Beto O'Rourke promised to take everyone AR15s and AK47s if elected. That should really endear him to the 98 million gun owners in the US. Can these lefties be more out of touch with Joe 6 Pack?
    Yes; I believe they can outdo this and will continue to all the way to Trumps re-election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Joe fucking 6 pack is an albatross around the neck of civilized citizens.
    Get a fucking degree, you moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    On one hand I appreciate the honesty. It also belies the liberal premise of caring about the little guy. You despise them. Yet you also despise the wealthy. It’s an interesting position.
    Spot on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Like the "big chiwawa" watched the Democrat debate, too funny, must be he has the radio on early today
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    One of the facts conservatives fail to understand regarding health care is that when less people have it it costs the rest of us more. When people flock to the ER due to a lack of preventive care it drives hospital costs up for everyone including the insurance companies who pay for clients medical care. In the end, the cost winds up with the consumer
    FACTS??? You wouldn't know a fact if it walked up and slapped you on your thick bone head arsecheese. Who are all these mystical people flocking to the ER arsecheese? I keep hearing this BULL SHIT from leftists who cannot seem to give up enough liberties and believe that people are too stupid to provide for themselves; where's the FACTS to support such false, asinine claims?

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Easy being a tough guy with rhetoric, but if you think thru the actual issue, which conservatives seldom do on any issue, it has effects far beyond just getting health care
    Nothing says "MORON" better than a low IQ leftist with ZERO facts raging about how great Government controlled healthcare is when everywhere it is tried it is a massive failure.

    Unless of course you like dying while waiting for an operation, or long wait lists for operations that we take for granted here waiting for a day in the Emergency care facility and paying confiscatory tax rates to support the massive wasteful bureaucracies such systems require.

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