Members banned from this thread: Cypress, evince, Rune, moon, Mason Michaels and reagansghost


Page 18 of 24 FirstFirst ... 8141516171819202122 ... LastLast
Results 256 to 270 of 358

Thread: Rep. Alexandria Occasion Cortez has 20zK in student loan debt

  1. #256 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Dirty South
    Posts
    63,463
    Thanks
    6,241
    Thanked 13,422 Times in 10,049 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 2,947 Times in 2,728 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Because revenues did not decrease in FY 2018.

    FY 2017: $3316.2
    FY 2018: $3329.9
    FY 2019: $3437.7 (estimate)
    Now you're being a piece of shit, bad faith asshole.

    You know that the 2017 tax cut didn't go into effect until 25% of the way through the FY.

    You also know that for the three months prior to the tax cut, revenues were up by $29B, yet revenue only grew by $13B for the entire fiscal year.

    You're a liar, a phony, and a fraud.

    You act exclusively in bad faith because you don't want to admit you're full of shit.
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


  2. #257 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Dirty South
    Posts
    63,463
    Thanks
    6,241
    Thanked 13,422 Times in 10,049 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 2,947 Times in 2,728 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    And, consumer spending and disposable income are both up
    Firstly, we only got 2.5% GDP growth for 2018, well below the 3% promised, below even Obama's best mark in 2015 of 2.88%.

    Secondly, how much did consumer spending and disposable income increase prior to the tax cut???? You've left that data out for obvious reasons.
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


  3. #258 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Dirty South
    Posts
    63,463
    Thanks
    6,241
    Thanked 13,422 Times in 10,049 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 2,947 Times in 2,728 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Because revenues did not decrease in FY 2018.
    They did following the tax cut.

    The first three months of FY 2018 saw +$29B in revenues.

    The final three months of FY 2019, with the tax cut in effect, saw -$16B in revenues.

    Why do you leave that detail out? Why are you ignoring it?
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


  4. #259 | Top
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Posts
    52,486
    Thanks
    78,150
    Thanked 23,668 Times in 17,927 Posts
    Groans
    38,844
    Groaned 3,248 Times in 3,052 Posts
    Blog Entries
    8

    Default

    Let the anti-Semite pay for her own college education.

  5. #260 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Dirty South
    Posts
    63,463
    Thanks
    6,241
    Thanked 13,422 Times in 10,049 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 2,947 Times in 2,728 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Right, so the tax cut did not affect the normal rate of growth. Revenue increased following one of Clinton's tax cuts, also.
    It did affect the normal rate of growth in the first year; it was negative.

    Same thing happened after the Bush Tax Cuts.

    You take two steps back to take one step forward; how many steps does that leave you behind?
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


  6. #261 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Dirty South
    Posts
    63,463
    Thanks
    6,241
    Thanked 13,422 Times in 10,049 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 2,947 Times in 2,728 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Because revenues did not decrease in FY 2018.
    What's really pathetic about this whole exchange is that the very data you're citing is what is being used to undermine your case.

    You exercise sophistry and bad faith when you make this statement without making mention of the fact that the $13B in revenue growth for FY 2018 is solely thanks to the three months of revenue that didn't have a tax cut.

    Oct 2017 - Dec 2017 revenue (without a tax cut): +$29B
    Jan 2018 - Sep 2018 revenue (with a tax cut): -$16B

    So that's how you get +$13B in revenue for FY 2018.

    You are deliberately hiding that detail because of what it means for your shitty argument, and you know it.

    That's why you didn't even address it in any of your responses; that's why you didn't quote it...you are doing everything you can to conceal that data because you want to push a false conclusion.

    You are a liar.
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


  7. The Following User Groans At LV426 For This Awful Post:

    Earl (09-19-2019)

  8. #262 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Dirty South
    Posts
    63,463
    Thanks
    6,241
    Thanked 13,422 Times in 10,049 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 2,947 Times in 2,728 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    And, I never said those increased revenues were due to the tax cut--that is another made-up argument on your part. I simply said revenues were higher in FY 2018 and FY 2019.
    Flash...that is what you were arguing because you said it in response to what I said; that tax cuts reduce revenues. I said that, then you said "nuh uh...FY 2018 saw higher revenues than FY 2017".

    But what you didn't bother to mention was that FY 2018 didn't have a full year of tax cuts...it only had 9 months of tax cuts. And the nine months of tax cuts saw $16B less in revenues than the same nine months of the prior fiscal year. Which means...what? Come on, Flash, you're only playing at being dumb. You know what it means. That the Russia Tax Cut reduced revenues.

    And yes, revenue grew in FY 2019, however, revenue would have been higher than it is now if taxes weren't cut in FY 2018.
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


  9. #263 | Top
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Posts
    52,486
    Thanks
    78,150
    Thanked 23,668 Times in 17,927 Posts
    Groans
    38,844
    Groaned 3,248 Times in 3,052 Posts
    Blog Entries
    8

    Default

    Let the anti-Semite pay for her own college education.

  10. #264 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Dirty South
    Posts
    63,463
    Thanks
    6,241
    Thanked 13,422 Times in 10,049 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 2,947 Times in 2,728 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    As I said previously, I would think the reason had more to do with an expanded economy and inflation--something you mentioned in a post that showed you are starting to grasp some economic reality. Changes in government fiscal policy are not always predictable or responsible for changes in spending or revenues.
    Conservatives predicted at least 3% growth.

    Conservatives predicted that the deficit would disappear.

    Conservatives predicted that there would be all these new jobs.

    Conservatives predicted that wages -not after-tax income, but wages- would rise by at least $4,000.

    Tax cuts are a stimulus, are they not? So explain how this tax cut will result in any of the things predicted in the future when none of those predictions happened in the first 20 months of the tax cut?

    Tax cuts reduce revenues...that was the direct effect in FY 2018; the first three months of FY 2018 saw revenue increase by $29B...the last 9 months of FY 2018 saw revenue decline by $16B. The Russia Tax Cut started 3 months into FY 2018.

    So Flash, if revenue was up $29B before the tax cut, but down $16B after it, what was the effect of the tax cut on revenues?
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


  11. #265 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Dirty South
    Posts
    63,463
    Thanks
    6,241
    Thanked 13,422 Times in 10,049 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 2,947 Times in 2,728 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Right, so the tax cut did not affect the normal rate of growth. Revenue increased following one of Clinton's tax cuts, also.
    What tax cuts? What are you talking about? The Capital Gains Tax Cut? You mean the one that caused the dotcom bubble?
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


  12. #266 | Top
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    57,638
    Thanks
    563
    Thanked 10,010 Times in 8,569 Posts
    Groans
    29
    Groaned 498 Times in 487 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    What a miserable, desperate fucktard.
    AOC is a miserable, desperate fucktard.

  13. #267 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Dirty South
    Posts
    63,463
    Thanks
    6,241
    Thanked 13,422 Times in 10,049 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 2,947 Times in 2,728 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    No, we're not being supported by cities.
    Yes, you are. We just spent $30B bailing farmers out.


    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    If we quit sending you food, you starve because you don't know how to grow or raise anything.
    More than half of all produce in this country is imported.


    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Anti-social? No, not really. We have computers too
    Antisocial refers to you refusing to leave your pockets of seclusion, that are being subsidized by urban taxpayers.

    For example, every single resident in the Atlanta metro area pays an extra $500 in taxes that goes to support the rest of the state.

    We pay 51% of the taxes in the state, yet only receive 35% of the spending.
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


  14. #268 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Location
    Living in rural America, "clinging to guns and religion"
    Posts
    43,229
    Thanks
    9,683
    Thanked 22,611 Times in 17,052 Posts
    Groans
    134
    Groaned 522 Times in 502 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Yes, you are. We just spent $30B bailing farmers out.




    More than half of all produce in this country is imported.




    Antisocial refers to you refusing to leave your pockets of seclusion, that are being subsidized by urban taxpayers.

    For example, every single resident in the Atlanta metro area pays an extra $500 in taxes that goes to support the rest of the state.

    We pay 51% of the taxes in the state, yet only receive 35% of the spending.
    You? As in who, you city shits? Not hardly, farmers have been subsidized for years by the federal gov't, not any city. And, the gov't often tells farmers what to and not to grow to receive those benefits.

    Bullshit.

    Pockets of seclusion? WTF are you trying to say, that you city shits subsidize our homes? You live in public housing and are on welfare, you don't pay taxes.
    The other two sentences are belying bullshit, most of your posts are.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

  15. #269 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Dirty South
    Posts
    63,463
    Thanks
    6,241
    Thanked 13,422 Times in 10,049 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 2,947 Times in 2,728 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    You? As in who, you city shits? Not hardly, farmers have been subsidized for years by the federal gov't, not any city. And, the gov't often tells farmers what to and not to grow to receive those benefits.
    Subsidized for years by the federal government, the revenue from which comes mostly from blue states and urban areas.


    Pockets of seclusion? WTF are you trying to say, that you city shits subsidize our homes?
    No, we subsidize the roads, utilities, water lines, broadband (in some cases)...basically everything that makes it possible for you to live comfortably.

    You're welcome.
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


  16. #270 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Location
    Living in rural America, "clinging to guns and religion"
    Posts
    43,229
    Thanks
    9,683
    Thanked 22,611 Times in 17,052 Posts
    Groans
    134
    Groaned 522 Times in 502 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Subsidized for years by the federal government, the revenue from which comes mostly from blue states and urban areas.




    No, we subsidize the roads, utilities, water lines, broadband (in some cases)...basically everything that makes it possible for you to live comfortably.

    You're welcome.
    Post proof of this.

    You don't provide any more than rural taxpayers do for those utilities, roads, etc.
    My hard work, long hours, smart investments and good paying jobs made my life comfortable.
    Assholes like you are trying to make our lives less comfortable by taking what you are too lazy to earn yourselves.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 9
    Last Post: 08-22-2019, 02:44 PM
  2. Deadbeat Pete Buttigieg has student loan debt of $130,000 !!!
    By Text Drivers are Killers in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 170
    Last Post: 06-13-2019, 05:44 PM
  3. Another huge black failure. This time it's student loan debt.
    By Text Drivers are Killers in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 06-10-2019, 10:12 PM
  4. Student Loan Debt
    By cawacko in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 177
    Last Post: 03-16-2018, 10:16 PM
  5. Student Loan Debt In The US Is So High That Many Aren't Even Paying It
    By signalmankenneth in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 05-29-2017, 07:07 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •