Human evolution - recent news

[Jack]

You mean like the Neanderthal,USF?

I have deliberately put USF on Ignore. There have been WAY too many mass shootings lately, and I don't want to be responsible for any 'Shoot Outs @ the OK Coral'.

[Jack]

"Neanderthal" was, is, and will remain into the foreseeable future a colloquialism for primitive, uncouth, crude, prehistoric.

Most message board dunces do not have the knowledge or interest to be remotely aware of the geographic distribution of Neanderthal DNA, behaviour, anatomy. I believe you are presumably more informed on it than most.

Wrapping up - I consider the "Neanderthal" insult to be a more elegant way of describing rightwing knuckle draggers!

Hmmmmm ... if the nominal 2% Neanderthal DNA that most of us have (excluding sub-saharan Africans) is known to me, I would guess the other average Drones here are aware of it too.
So, again, your use of 'Neanderthal' as a derogatory is misplaced in my opinion.

'Bluntskull'. Bluntskull is probably a more accurate and popular epithet for our Religious Conservative types.

Let's Review:
"I find you unacceptable! If I did not fear incarceration by human authority figures, I would terminate your life functions by applying sufficient force to your blunt skull so as to cause its collapse!"
Beldar Conehead

[Celticguy]

Because the thread is merely another racist bigoted liberal hate fest.

Thats easier than science.

[Cypress]

Yet they have found burials of Neanderthals who were given grave items to use in the afterlife, as well as skeletal evidence of healed injuries that indicated that the individuals were cared for by the group rather than just being left to die.

A good point.
Purportedly, Neanderthal had a nominally larger brain than Homo Sapiens.

However, there is no evidence Neanderthal produced cave art or had language - so for now, Homo Sapiens still hold the lead in cultural development!

[ThatOwlWoman]

A good point.
Purportedly, Neanderthal had a nominally larger brain than Homo Sapiens.

However, there is no evidence Neanderthal produced cave art or had language - so for now, Homo Sapiens still hold the lead in cultural development!

Check this out!

"Dated to 65,000 years ago, the cave paintings and shell beads are the first works of art dated to the time of Neanderthals, and they include the oldest cave art ever found. In two new studies, published Thursday in Science and Science Advances, researchers lay out the case that these works of art predate the arrival of modern Homo sapiens to Europe, which means someone else must have created them.

"In three caves scattered across Spain, researchers found more than a dozen examples of wall paintings that are more than 65,000 years old. At Cueva de los Aviones, a cave in southeastern Spain, researchers also found perforated seashell beads and pigments that are at least 115,000 years old.

“The Aviones finds are the oldest such objects of personal ornamentation known to this day anywhere in the world,” says study coauthor João Zilhão, a University of Barcelona archaeologist. “They predate by 20 to 40 thousand years anything remotely similar known from the African continent. And they were made by Neanderthals. Do I need to say more?”"

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/n...ution-science/

[Cypress]

Check this out!

"Dated to 65,000 years ago, the cave paintings and shell beads are the first works of art dated to the time of Neanderthals, and they include the oldest cave art ever found. In two new studies, published Thursday in Science and Science Advances, researchers lay out the case that these works of art predate the arrival of modern Homo sapiens to Europe, which means someone else must have created them.

"In three caves scattered across Spain, researchers found more than a dozen examples of wall paintings that are more than 65,000 years old. At Cueva de los Aviones, a cave in southeastern Spain, researchers also found perforated seashell beads and pigments that are at least 115,000 years old.

“The Aviones finds are the oldest such objects of personal ornamentation known to this day anywhere in the world,” says study coauthor João Zilhão, a University of Barcelona archaeologist. “They predate by 20 to 40 thousand years anything remotely similar known from the African continent. And they were made by Neanderthals. Do I need to say more?”"

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/n...ution-science/

Holy smoke, you learn something new everyday!
Go Neanderthals!

[ThatOwlWoman]

Holy smoke, you learn something new everyday!
Go Neanderthals!

I really like how science -- and then we non-sci-ppl -- change our thinking about extinct creatures as we learn more. Remember when dinosaurs were thought to be plodding, cold-blooded, slow and stupid?

[Cypress]

I really like how science -- and then we non-sci-ppl -- change our thinking about extinct creatures as we learn more. Remember when dinosaurs were thought to be plodding, cold-blooded, slow and stupid?

Too right you are - the quest for knowledge never ends. Human conceit leads us to believe sometimes we have it all figured out.

Before Einstein, the presumption was that we had solved all major problems in physics. We could just kick back and relax thanks to Newton and Maxwell!

There has been a complete paradigm shift in our view of dinosaurs and neaderthal.

The fact that general relativity and quantum mechanics are not congruent is obviously telling us we are missing something important. Some unifying theory that is beyond our grasp.

If the physicists are right about dark matter and dark energy, to date we really only understand less than four percent of all matter and energy that comprises the universe. Man, we have got our work cut out for us!

[ThatOwlWoman]

Too right you are - the quest for knowledge never ends. Human conceit leads us to believe sometimes we have it all figured out.

Before Einstein, the presumption was that we had solved all major problems in physics. We could just kick back and relax thanks to Newton and Maxwell!

There has been a complete paradigm shift in our view of dinosaurs and neaderthal.

The fact that general relativity and quantum mechanics are not congruent is obviously telling us we are missing something important. Some unifying theory that is beyond our grasp.

If the physicists are right about dark matter and dark energy, to date we really only understand less than four percent of all matter and energy that comprises the universe. Man, we have got our work cut out for us!

It makes you want to live another life time or two just to see what happens next, doesn't it?

[Bigdog]

Holy smoke, you learn something new everyday!
Go Neanderthals!

I know this does not support your progressive racist hatred, but ...

"Using those clues, researchers are now able to identify “ghost populations”, ancient groups whose mixture with modern humans helps to explain some aspects of diversity in African genomes today.

These ghosts were the African equivalent of Neanderthals. They were ancient lineages with long histories, starting from long before any modern humans existed, and they were mixing with modern populations as recently as 20,000 years ago."

https://medium.com/@johnhawks/the-st...d-9e435bea24f6

[Cypress]

It makes you want to live another life time or two just to see what happens next, doesn't it?

I decided in my next life, I am going to be an oceanographer, archaeologist, or astronomer. I still have time to settle on one!

[Cypress]

I know this does not support your progressive racist hatred, but ...

"Using those clues, researchers are now able to identify “ghost populations”, ancient groups whose mixture with modern humans helps to explain some aspects of diversity in African genomes today.

These ghosts were the African equivalent of Neanderthals. They were ancient lineages with long histories, starting from long before any modern humans existed, and they were mixing with modern populations as recently as 20,000 years ago."

https://medium.com/@johnhawks/the-st...d-9e435bea24f6

Three minutes before you posted this, you knew virtually nothing about the Neaderthal genome, their relationship to homo sapiens, or the geographic distribution of Neaderthal both in the past and through modern DNA distribution.

You think I am supposed to take you seriously and lend weight to your post because you did a 30 second google search, grabbed the first thing you could find, and rushed back here to respond to me?


At least Jack and Owl have independent knowledge and awareness about the topic that pre-dates three minutes ago.

[Bigdog]

Hmmmmm ... if the nominal 2% Neanderthal DNA that most of us have (excluding sub-saharan Africans) is known to me, I would guess the other average Drones here are aware of it too.
So, again, your use of 'Neanderthal' as a derogatory is misplaced in my opinion.

'Bluntskull'. Bluntskull is probably a more accurate and popular epithet for our Religious Conservative types.

Let's Review:
"I find you unacceptable! If I did not fear incarceration by human authority figures, I would terminate your life functions by applying sufficient force to your blunt skull so as to cause its collapse!"
Beldar Conehead

So you call Black Christians ... Bluntskulls.

[Mott the Hoople]

Rev. Al and Rev. Barber must be shitting bricks.

What would you know or care? This is a topic far, far, far over your head.

[Bigdog]

Three minutes

It should have been obvious to you that interbreeding would, likely, not be limited to Eurasia.