Democrat terrorists smear the NRA as terrorists

[artichoke]

SCOTUS rules the 2nd is an individual right

Not that SCOTUS isn't wrong most of the time, or that them declaring something actually makes it so. That's an outrageously erroneous fallacy we have accepted about what was supposed to be an almost completely powerless branch of government.

[artichoke]

When a thread writer cannot even use proper grammar you know you are dealing with an unthoughtful person.

A typo must mean that someone's arguments are invalid? This is a blatantly obvious fallacy. Turns out those who rush in to "correct" other people's grammar (still waiting for an example) as an excuse for hurling ad hominem personal attacks are apparently the ones who don't think so well. Who would have thought?

Apparently not you.

The NRA is a corporate stooge and money grabber not a defender of the 2ND.

This is just you hurling labels and insults, not a counterpoint.

Calling them names that don't make sense (yes, defending gun rights is defending the 2nd Amendment, genius) in no way refutes the argument being made. Try to keep up, "thoughtful" one.

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"Fourteen-year-old boys are not part of a well-regulated militia. Members of wacky religious cults are not part of a well-regulated militia. Permitting unregulated citizens [what part of self-rule don't you get? WE permit the GOVERNMENT to do things, not the other way around, mindless slave] to have guns is destroying the security of this free state [which ceases to BE a free state with gun control...duh]." Molly Ivins

"In 1991, Warren E. Burger, the conservative chief justice of the Supreme Court, was interviewed on the MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour about the meaning of the Second Amendment's "right to keep and bear arms." Burger answered that the Second Amendment "has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud--I repeat the word 'fraud'--on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime." In a speech in 1992, Burger declared that "the Second Amendment doesn't guarantee the right to have firearms at all. "In his view, the purpose of the Second Amendment was "to ensure that the 'state armies'--'the militia'--would be maintained for the defense of the state."

http://www.bradycampaign.org/key-gun...nce-statistics

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The Brady Campaign (literally the most biased source you could possibly cite here, LOL) is deliberately misrepresenting the facts to prop up a long-debunked Democrat lie...that gun rights were only intended for state militias.

-Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution already provides for the existence of such militias. There would be no reason for the 2nd Amendment to exist if this were correct.

-When the Framers drafted the Bill of Rights, they went out of their way to specify “The People” when talking about the rights of the individual and “The States” when talking about the rights of state governments. For liberals to be correct on this, the 2nd Amendment (‘the right of The People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed’) would have to be the only place in the entire document in which the meanings were reversed.

-The term “well-regulated” in 1789 meant correctly-calibrated and properly formed. There is abundant evidence of this and it is beyond dispute. When the first part of the 2nd Amendment justifies gun rights by explaining, “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state…,” it is clarifying that you cannot have the kind of disciplined and well-trained citizen militias necessary to repel foreign invasions, put down unrest, and resist government tyranny without an armed populace. This was made unmistakably clear by Alexander

Hamilton’s discussion of militias in Federalist 29, and by the original wording of the 2nd Amendment:

“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country.”

But liberals deliberately misrepresent the 2nd Amendment’s wording to argue that the Founders (who used armed revolution to overthrow the government) only actually supported the right of states to operate their own government-controlled militias, despite them being on the record emphatically stating the opposite. These would be the same Founding Fathers who made it a requirement that every citizen own a firearm at one point.

Liberals also cite examples of armed rebellions that were put down by George Washington as proof that our Founders never intended for us to be able to take up arms against federal tyranny. But this flies in the face of everything we know about the Founding Fathers, who talked routinely about refreshing the “tree of liberty” with the “blood of patriots and tyrants,” and who enthusiastically embraced such rights in no uncertain terms in the Declaration of Independence.

Yet again, like the rest of the Bill of Rights, the 2nd Amendment was drafted specifically to convince New York and Virginia that this new Federal Government we were creating would never be able to trample their Natural Right to self-rule as an armed, free people. The Founding Fathers had no illusions about the tyrannical inclinations of government, and they enshrined gun rights in the Constitution as a protection of the states and The People against the Federal Government for the clear and stated purpose of armed resistance to tyranny.

This is an undeniable fact that liberals simply choose to lie about non-stop…as with everything else they say about the Constitution.

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Anything else you'd like to lie about or are you good for now?

Every day, 310 people are shot in the United States. Among those:

100 people are shot and killed
210 survive gun injuries
95 are injured in an attack
61 die from suicide
10 survive a suicide attempt
1 is killed unintentionally
90 are shot unintentionally
1 is killed by legal intervention
4 are shot by legal intervention
1 died but the intent was unknown
12 are shot but the intent was unknown

Lots of people die (or are violated by) illegal immigrants (thanks to Democrats), Planned Parenthood (thanks to Democrats), and a myriad of other things like cars as well. At least cars and guns serve an actual legitimate purpose (transportation and saving lives, preventing crime, tyranny, respectively).

You have provided literally nothing but hilariously discredited sources, blatantly stupid fallacies, and name-calling...all while trying to position yourself as intellectually superior.

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[Bigdog]

bout time

Here's a list of all the mass shooters that are NRA members ....

[Bigdog]

Jaded is a tough guy behind her monitor.

Jaded Dragqueen is a shim.

[Lord Yurt]

Not that SCOTUS isn't wrong most of the time, or that them declaring something actually makes it so. That's an outrageously erroneous fallacy we have accepted about what was supposed to be an almost completely powerless branch of government.

Then change the Constitution, because your opinion is fallacy.

[Bigdog]

The majority of these mass shootings are because of Social Media, not the NRA.

[artichoke]

Then change the Constitution, because your opinion is fallacy.

Show me where it says judicial review or anything like it exists. It literally cannot be found mentioned or even implied anywhere...and the Founders are openly on the record DENYING that it was ever intended or authorized (as makes perfect sense...who in their right mind would ever think the Founders wanted a tiny handful of un-elected, unaccountable dictators to issue edicts from on high about every aspect of our lives...everything they did was about guaranteeing the American people the right to self-rule...this fallacy we have accepted about SCOTUS is 100% antithetical to what was put in place). No NEED to change the Constitution when it already makes 95% of what federal courts do illegal.

[artichoke]

The majority of these mass shootings are because of Social Media, not the NRA.

Social media or social justice. Or both.

[Bigdog]

Social media or social justice. Or both.

In SJW fantasy world, ... even the police and military would not have firearms, ... only gangsters and criminals and foreigners would be armed.