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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    and the NRA is drenched in Russian money
    No they aren't, liar. Ooo, look, your pants are on fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    the American big donors to the NRA are racists
    You donate to the NRA? Wow, who knew?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    The amendment was promulgated by anti federalists worried that a strong federal military would take over the 13 colonies.
    The need to maintain a well regulated militia is the legislative intent. For two hundred years nobody even invoked the law.
    The NRA committed a fraud on the people and supplanted its will in the Court in Heller. Every prior decision was contrary
    and consistent with the 2nd amendment.

    There was no organic individual and unfettered right to own guns from the 2nd amendment. No state with a state militia has ever called up
    its militia to fight the federal government. The construction accepted by the majority
    in Heller is wrongly decided, a repayment made by unscrupulous justices and a history ignoring creation, a total victory of gun manufacturers.
    Because of it the United States has been drenched in a blood bath.
    No amount of "subjective" WISHING, PROPAGANDA, OR COMMON LAW can or will change history and the 2nd amendment right of the people to maintain their right of self protection. There are simple....and few methods to remove weapons from THE PEOPLE just as every other fascist regime on earth have done before placing a totalitarian government into place. 1. Amend the US CONSTITUTION and rescind this right via SUPER MAJORITY 75% ratification process. 2. Attempt a Coupe d'état (failing as we speak) 3. Revolution. (which will never happen...as per the logic of left wing fear...the very reason the left demands the removal of personal ownership of weapons by US CITIZENS)

    Conclusion: Just another left wing TROLL flapping their gums to hear the noise produced in order to seek accolade from their fellow fascists.

    Make more laws to place more law abiding citizens into the arena of unprotected danger (making laws that only law abiding citizens follow....such are RED FLAG LAWS...etc.,) What do you get? hundreds of thousands of gun deaths over a decade long period in cities such as Chicago, NY, Houston, LA, Atlanta...etc.) The stats are there....the more you attempt to regulate the 2nd...the more innocent deaths it produces. You leftists are killing our children in schools, killing innocent men, women and children while the worship, killing innocent children at play in drive by shootings....etc.

    You are not part of the solution.....you are the originator of the PROPLEM, a lack of at home instruction in MORALITY. The village and or BIG BROTHER make piss poor parents.
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    It is a bit sad that the gun-merchants can so control the minds of the Make Americans Mugs Again movement. It is like trying to discuss things with people who are truly convinced they are Napoleon. We can only sympathise very deeply with the sane Americans and hope their children get out safely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    It is a bit sad that the gun-merchants can so control the minds of the Make Americans Mugs Again movement. It is like trying to discuss things with people who are truly convinced they are Napoleon. We can only sympathise very deeply with the sane Americans and hope their children get out safely!
    Just continue to take the right of self protection away from the law abiding citizen....and you will continue to lead more innocent, men, women and children to an early grave. No one is safe when the criminals have access to firearms and the law abiding do not. This truth is exampled all around the world. Attempting to blame the weapons manufacturing or those who legally sell guns for the acts that criminals engage is like attempting to blame the UNION WORKERS of the UAW for the deaths produced each year via automobiles. Left wing logic and reason is like attempting to mix water and oil.

    Again: Promoting lawlessness....suggesting that you have the right to ignore the constitutional rule of law contained in the 2nd amendment will never remove this right from the people. Why are all leftist proponents of LAWLESSNESS? Anytime the left can't example success in altering the US RULE of law through LEGAL MEANS....at the legislative level of government through REPRESENTATION of the people's voice......they attempt to promote lawlessness and place radical judges into power to get their agenda though via the Judicial Branch of Government (unelected, never represented, hired CIVIL POLITICAL appointees).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Just continue to take the right of self protection away from the law abiding citizen....and you will continue to lead more innocent, men, women and children to an early grave. No one is safe when the criminals have access to firearms and the law abiding do not. This truth is exampled all around the world. Attempting to blame the weapons manufacturing or those who legally sell guns for the acts that criminals engage is like attempting to blame the UNION WORKERS of the UAW for the deaths produced each year via automobiles. Left wing logic and reason is like attempting to mix water and oil.
    Killing people protects nobody - it just kills people. Most people get rid of the bang-bangs and have laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Killing people protects nobody - it just kills people. Most people get rid of the bang-bangs and have laws.
    Indeed....KILLING THE RIGHT PEOPLE (criminals that would kill for prophet or insanity) protects the innocent, just as the US RULE OF LAW in this Representative Republic intended. In this REPUBLIC "MOST PEOPLE (wink wink) are law abiding citizens and follow the rule of law....they are not radical fascists that attempt to harm the innocent by promoting LAWLESSNESS. The 2nd amendment indeed is unique to the United States.....and one of the reasons that the US has stood for almost 250 being governed by a simple 8 page document (THE CONSTITUTION) that guarantees the right of governing is reserved for the PEOPLE/STATES....not some totalitarian central government. The "vast majority" of people being murdered via gun violence are located in progressive liberal....SOCIALIST cities and states that have attempted to regulate the 2nd amendment....only to remove the protective barrier of the law abiding that has resulted in the deaths of many law abiding men, women, and children, in schools, in churches, on the streets.....PEOPLE such as you have served up the innocent on a silver platter to the wolves of the criminal underworld that OBEY NO LAWS.

    Look around.....the world economy is on the verge of collapse while the US is has a booming economy......citizens of the world attempt every day to enter the United States of American to take advantage of the "UNIQUENESS" and its personal guarantees of liberty and freedom to choose.

    As long as this Republic Stands....the 2nd amendment will stand. Thus the drum beat of the fascist socialists to REMOVE that grantee of personal protection.

    You sound muck like all other fascists. You attempt to take advantage of these personal freedoms to change the USA into a shithole nation such as all the immigrants are attempting to flee in order to seek freedom and liberty here in this nation protected via the 2nd amendment. Enjoy your SHITHOLE....but don't expect "OTHERS...wink, wink" to purchase the Bullshit you are attempting to sell wholesale.....THE PEOPLE of the US are not as think as you stupid they are comrade.
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    Best get rid of guns and stop killing anybody, surely? As in my own family, the only people who go to the 'States are those who can't manage to get anywhere at home and are obsessed with money, because it is the world centre of capitalism. What on earth has that to do with having your incredible murder rate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Best get rid of guns and stop killing anybody, surely? As in my own family, the only people who go to the 'States are those who can't manage to get anywhere at home and are obsessed with money, because it is the world centre of capitalism. What on earth has that to do with having your incredible murder rate?
    Indeed....the nail on the head. You have revealed your agenda.....remove the 2nd, and remove capitalism. Good day.....COMRADE. I suggest you go tell the good people of Cuba, China (Hong Kong), VENEZUELA....just how great socialism is...…...

    No one (in their right mind)….wants or needs to be "equally" impoverished. When you bring down the wage payer.....you bring down the wage earner, as has been directly experienced all around the world as there is not one example world wide of any open border Socialist (workers of the world unite) Nation ever having found success. The greatest failures to date? THE "FORMER" USSR.....and the SOCIALIST party of Germany better know as the NAZI party, that hated capitalism with a vengeance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Very like Trumpf and his Great Model. obviously. You poor bumsuckers know nothing about real politics, do you. I am getting bored with you, so bugger off for a while.
    YALIF. You have no idea what a tyrant is. You are not a dictator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    It is a bit sad that the gun-merchants can so control the minds of the Make Americans Mugs Again movement. It is like trying to discuss things with people who are truly convinced they are Napoleon. We can only sympathise very deeply with the sane Americans and hope their children get out safely!
    You are not a dictator. You don't get to tell Americans what to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Best get rid of guns and stop killing anybody, surely? As in my own family, the only people who go to the 'States are those who can't manage to get anywhere at home and are obsessed with money, because it is the world centre of capitalism. What on earth has that to do with having your incredible murder rate?
    You can't get rid of guns. You are not a dictator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    That's why the history books are filled with quotes from our founders and authors of our founding documents proving their steadfast support for the principal of an inalienable "individual" right to keep and bear arms and thereby prove that your OP is pure horseshit!
    Those supposed quotes are largely cherry picked phrases employed to defend whatever point of view the editor is pushing, regardless of the Founding Father, if you read enough, you can find and frame a quote to support just about anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    None of them invented slavery, they like the blacks were born into the culture of slavery brought to the colonies by the British who didn't want slavery in their home country, so they instituted it into the colonies where they enjoyed cheap products. Most every slave brought to America was sold to the slave traders by African black tribal members & enemies of the slave's tribes. The culture at that time promoted the idea that blacks and America's indian's were less than human and women were property. It was a different time! AMERICA's WHITE REPUBLICANS fought & died to free the slaves. America's Democrats fought and died to keep slavery! Democrats were & still are the fucking racist!
    Another Glenn Beck revision of history, it the truth be known, it was Southern CONSERVATIVE Democrats who defended slavery and Northern LIBERAL Republicans who fought against it, a party's ideology isn't set in stone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    I fear having the federal government take over my freedom and rights.
    Then you should be checked for paranoia, in two hundred years plus it has never even come close to happening, odds are probably as great as that of hitting Mega millions

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