The definitive gun rights thread

[evince]

using your finger to tell someone you hate how you feel about them is the same as making a slashing motion across your throat


its a death thread



remember how you guys claim all a gun nut has to do is FEEL threatened and they can kill people

[Into the Night]

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YALSA

[Iolo/Penderyn]

Oh wow... You "punished" him?!?!?! Good for you. In actuality, you are only punishing yourself. He can still reply to your posts all the same, but you can't reply to his anymore... You are banning yourself from being able to do that. Good ol' liberal "logic" I suppose...

There are certain posters I find so boring that conversations between us bore others too. Except with the Earl of Havana (and occasionally Pigdog), putting them on ignore tends to bring an end to this boredom.

[gfm7175]

There are certain posters I find so boring that conversations between us bore others too. Except with the Earl of Havana (and occasionally Pigdog), putting them on ignore tends to bring an end to this boredom.

Meh. What's "boring" is what you are going to leave yourself with...

ECHO...ECHO...ECHO...ECHO...ECHO...ECHO...ECHO

[CFM]

The amendment was promulgated by anti federalists worried that a strong federal military would take over the 13 colonies.
The need to maintain a well regulated militia is the legislative intent. For two hundred years nobody even invoked the law.
The NRA committed a fraud on the people and supplanted its will in the Court in Heller. Every prior decision was contrary
and consistent with the 2nd amendment.

There was no organic individual and unfettered right to own guns from the 2nd amendment. No state with a state militia has ever called up
its militia to fight the federal government. The construction accepted by the majority
in Heller is wrongly decided, a repayment made by unscrupulous justices and a history ignoring creation, a total victory of gun manufacturers.
Because of it the United States has been drenched in a blood bath.

There's nothing definitive about your thread. It's another example of a gun hater than wants guns bans but doesn't have the guts to try and take them himself.

Don't like guns, don't buy one. Don't like that I exercise my 2nd amendment rights to own them, get off your ass, be a man, and fail in your efforts to personally try and take them.

[CFM]

This message is hidden because all three versions of Into the Night are on your ignore list.

They're ignore because you're a goddamn coward.

[Truth Detector]

The amendment was promulgated by anti federalists worried that a strong federal military would take over the 13 colonies.
The need to maintain a well regulated militia is the legislative intent. For two hundred years nobody even invoked the law.
The NRA committed a fraud on the people and supplanted its will in the Court in Heller. Every prior decision was contrary
and consistent with the 2nd amendment.

There was no organic individual and unfettered right to own guns from the 2nd amendment. No state with a state militia has ever called up
its militia to fight the federal government. The construction accepted by the majority
in Heller is wrongly decided, a repayment made by unscrupulous justices and a history ignoring creation, a total victory of gun manufacturers.
Because of it the United States has been drenched in a blood bath.

Now that we have seen the bullshit, lets get to the FACTS:

“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.”

What is a well regulated militia? What were the Framers talking about really? Of all the fears of the Founding Fathers, none was stronger than their fear of standing armies.

As constitutional scholar David Young has observed: “The necessity of an armed populace, protection against disarming of the citizenry, and the need to guard against a select militia and assure a real militia which could defend liberty against any standing forces the government might raise were topics interspersed throughout the ratification period.”

This may be a very foreign concept, but the first fight over the Second Amendment wasn’t over whether the population should be armed. All the Framers agreed with that. The fight was between federalists and anti-federalists over whether we would have a standing army.

The Anti-Federalists―among them George Mason, Patrick Henry and Samuel Adams―were militant advocates of the inclusion of a bill of rights in the Constitution because they did not trust the power of the federal government to be restrained.

Don Kates, a scholar of the constitution and Second Amendment, points out that, “During the ratification debate, the Federalists vehemently denied that the federal government would have the power to infringe freedom of expression, religion, and other basic rights—expressly including the right to arms. In this context, Madison secured ratification by his commitment to support and to safeguard the fundamental rights that all agreed should never be infringed.”

In short, the Federalists—including men like John Jay, James Madison and George Washington—wanted the Second Amendment because they believed a strong federal government would be able to control a standing army.

And the Anti-Federalists wanted it because it would mean every able-bodied man in America would be armed in the event that the federal government or America’s own standing army turned on its own people.

https://ivn.us/2015/11/03/reality-ch...ond-amendment/

[Truth Detector]

and the NRA is drenched in Russian money

You're drenched in stupidity.

[Truth Detector]

Well, a lot of them were slave-owning racists, .....................

STFU you blathering Marxist moron.

[Truth Detector]

Killing people protects nobody - it just kills people. Most people get rid of the bang-bangs and have laws.

You dumb Marxist twat; more people have been murdered by their own Governments than any wars or criminals. I do wish you were as smart as you foolishly think you are.

[Truth Detector]

Those supposed quotes are largely cherry picked phrases employed to defend whatever point of view the editor is pushing, regardless of the Founding Father, if you read enough, you can find and frame a quote to support just about anything

LIE and LAME; see my post above Arsecheese and stop promulgating the Marxist rhetoric you are fed by MSNBC.

[Controlled Opposition]

using your finger to tell someone you hate how you feel about them is the same as making a slashing motion across your throat


its a death thread



remember how you guys claim all a gun nut has to do is FEEL threatened and they can kill people

RB 60 was responding to a video that I posted. It was by a lawyer who was explaining a Pennsylvania case that went all the way to the Supreme Court. There was a long-running dispute between neighbors. There was a restraining order against the neighbor. She was shouting at him and came onto the guy's property. Technically, he might have gotten away with actually shooting her. Instead, he made that gesture. Another neighbor claimed that she felt threatened and called the police.

As a result, "finger-shooter" was fined $100, plus costs.

[Iolo/Penderyn]

Meh. What's "boring" is what you are going to leave yourself with...

ECHO...ECHO...ECHO...ECHO...ECHO...ECHO...ECHO

Has it ever struck you that American fascism is supported entirely by ducks and parrots? Heil Trumpf and Death to Intelligence!

[gfm7175]

Has it ever struck you that American fascism is supported entirely by ducks and parrots? Heil Trumpf and Death to Intelligence!

No, fascism in America is being supported by Democrats.

[Iolo/Penderyn]

No, fascism in America is being supported by Democrats.

You got a First in PPE, obviously!