Bernie thinks Medicare for all will reduce fraud

[Celticguy]

https://pjmedia.com/trending/sanders...icare-for-all/

He admits there is fraud in Medicare for some. It only stands to reason that if you expand the rolls it will expand the fraud.

His idea is that removing profit will have this effect.

Um.... it didn't have this effect on Medicare for some as he already admitted.

Why ? The profit motive was not eliminated. Providers are still making a buck and as they know its easier to defraud Medicare due to its minimalist fraud enforcement (relative to commercial insurance), its easy pickins.

Oh, and he wants to cancel all medical debt. Talk about a mother lode for fraud.....

[Flash]

https://pjmedia.com/trending/sanders...icare-for-all/

He admits there is fraud in Medicare for some. It only stands to reason that if you expand the rolls it will expand the fraud.

His idea is that removing profit will have this effect.

Um.... it didn't have this effect on Medicare for some as he already admitted.

Why ? The profit motive was not eliminated. Providers are still making a buck and as they know its easier to defraud Medicare due to its minimalist fraud enforcement (relative to commercial insurance), its easy pickins.

Oh, and he wants to cancel all medical debt. Talk about a mother lode for fraud.....

Great points. Some posters will claim the solution to the fraud is hiring more investigators for fraud enforcement. That will only increase the cost and punish the crime afterward rather than stop it. Medicare already has 1 billion claims a year and Medicare for all only increases that amount which is impossible to investigate.

[Celticguy]

Great points. Some posters will claim the solution to the fraud is hiring more investigators for fraud enforcement. That will only increase the cost and punish the crime afterward rather than stop it. Medicare already has 1 billion claims a year and Medicare for all only increases that amount which is impossible to investigate.

Commercial does a good job with it. Medicare/Medicaid never has.

[Gonzomin]

We have always had fraud in medical care. We have had fraud bigly in medical insurance. Scott in Florida was head of a =company that had the biggest fine for Medicare fraud of all time. The people of Florida elected him governor.

[Flash]

We have always had fraud in medical care. We have had fraud bigly in medical insurance. Scott in Florida was head of a =company that had the biggest fine for Medicare fraud of all time. The people of Florida elected him governor.

That is why we don't want Medicare for everybody--it only increases the fraud.

[Gonzomin]

That is why we don't want Medicare for everybody--it only increases the fraud.

You should do some homework. There is fraud in all healthcare. Pharm is one of the worst as recent history shows. Drug companies bribed doctors to prescribe very addictive opioids to increase profits. They made billions. Now states are suing them to pay for what they did.
Hard goods manufacturers have kept prices on medical appliances at ridiculous levels by lobbying and bribing legislators.
Nationalized medicine will give control and oversight. There is a chance we can slash fraud. Continuing as we have is foolish.

[Celticguy]

Nationalized medicine will give control and oversight. There is a chance we can slash fraud. Continuing as we have is foolish.

How will it change control/oversight?
Remember youve had Medicare/medicaid authority for generations and its dine nothing but feed the beast.

[Flash]

You should do some homework. There is fraud in all healthcare. Pharm is one of the worst as recent history shows. Drug companies bribed doctors to prescribe very addictive opioids to increase profits. They made billions. Now states are suing them to pay for what they did.
Hard goods manufacturers have kept prices on medical appliances at ridiculous levels by lobbying and bribing legislators.
Nationalized medicine will give control and oversight. There is a chance we can slash fraud. Continuing as we have is foolish.

Agreed. And all that fraud is occurring within the single-payer Medicare and Medicaid system. Sanders or no one else is talking about nationalized medicine. Medicare for all keeps the private system we have today.

[PoliTalker]

Hello Celticguy,

If we make Medicare our primary system it is logical to step up verification and enforcement so fraud is as limited as possible.

Obviously it's worth the investment in oversight with so much money at stake.

You know, a billion here, a billion there, pretty soon we're talking about a lot of money.

[Year Zero]

Hello Celticguy,

If we make Medicare our primary system it is logical to step up verification and enforcement so fraud is as limited as possible.

Obviously it's worth the investment in oversight with so much money at stake.

You know, a billion here, a billion there, pretty soon we're talking about a lot of money.

Insignificant. If it were not for the absolute idiocy of religion the right wing would not exist. Let me explain. Religious folks don't care about the current country or planet, they have nothing to live for and everything to die for. Theirs is a life of suffering.

To them suffering is noble.

Despite the fact we can end this specific suffering with a single payer system.

So, why should we continue to make life as abject and miserable as possible for all people here when we can do the opposite? We can make life better, we can make living here better, but we don't. Why?

[Truth Detector]

Insignificant. If it were not for the absolute idiocy of religion the right wing would not exist. Let me explain. Religious folks don't care about the current country or planet, they have nothing to live for and everything to die for. Theirs is a life of suffering.

To them suffering is noble.

Despite the fact we can end this specific suffering with a single payer system.

So, why should we continue to make life as abject and miserable as possible for all people here when we can do the opposite? We can make life better, we can make living here better, but we don't. Why?

WOW; I doubt I have ever seen a dumber LIE filled post from anyone on the left. I could be wrong.

[Year Zero]

WOW; I doubt I have ever seen a dumber LIE filled post from anyone on the left. I could be wrong.

You're so full of shit it hurts.

[Truth Detector]

You're I'm so full of shit it hurts.

Yes, you are.

[Truth Detector]

If we make Medicare our primary system it is logical to step up verification and enforcement so fraud is as limited as possible.

WRONG; it will become more fraudulent and costly for the American people. Of course, if you like mediocre care, long waiting lines and waiting lists, you would love Socialist run medical care.

Obviously it's worth the investment in oversight with so much money at stake.

WRONG; and calling it an investment is preposterous in its stupidity and ignorance.

You know, a billion here, a billion there, pretty soon we're talking about a lot of money.

It's more like a trillion here and a trillion there.

[gemini104104]

Bernie the other Putin puppet who conspired against Hillary's campaign in order to serve the will of his un American leaders' will. I am definitely not feeling the Bern but a decrepit old fool who is still rattling around on his anti Democracy mission.