In Defense of Columbus: An Exaggerated Evil

[evince]

discovery day


the day the old world discovered the new world

[Jack]

Why do we even need that day period?? Only state & fed workers get that day off, like they get flag day & ground hog day.

I guess that would be an Option.
I think it is only celebrated in the Western Hemisphere.
It's a momentous event.
I've tossed in my two cents.
'Dia de La Raza'. Sounds Unifying and Inclusive.

[Mott the Hoople]

Yes. I would agree. So. Do YOU have a SOLUTION to the present dilemma?
Others have SOLVED the problem by shifting the emphasis from Columbus to 'A Day of A New Race'. That seems like a UNIFYING event, the Americans.
Instead of calling it 'Columbus Day', we could adopt what others have done, and call it 'Dia de La Raza'.
Seems like a simple fix.

I think you’re creating a false dichotomy. Why get rid of Columbus Day?

I say we keep Columbus Day but we create a new Holiday called “Atonement Day”.

On the first Atonement Day we take a person who represents all that is wrong with Anglo-American culture and burn them at the stake in Atonement for our past sins (Just like the Shawnee burned Colonel Crawford) .

Obviously Watermark would be the best person to burn at the stake as I can think of no one better to represent the flaws of white Anglo Americans.

After that every Atonement Day everyone will display a picture of a Native American with a tear running down his cheek as a symbol of all the atrocities committed against Native Americans and for Watermark’s sacrifice.

[Mott the Hoople]

Now before anyone criticizes “Who would cry over Watermark being burned at the stake?”.

That’s a fair criticism but i’d Point out that the Native Americans tear is a Watermark.

[Jack]

OK. That makes sense. Especially the burning of Watermark. (any chance we can hold him down and pour gold down his throat before the burning?)

I think you’re creating a false dichotomy. Why get rid of Columbus Day?

I say we keep Columbus Day but we create a new Holiday called “Atonement Day”.

On the first Atonement Day we take a person who represents all that is wrong with Anglo-American culture and burn them at the stake in Atonement for our past sins (Just like the Shawnee burned Colonel Crawford) .

Obviously Watermark would be the best person to burn at the stake as I can think of no one better to represent the flaws of white Anglo Americans.

After that every Atonement Day everyone will display a picture of a Native American with a tear running down his cheek as a symbol of all the atrocities committed against Native Americans and for Watermark’s sacrifice.

[Mott the Hoople]

OK. That makes sense. Especially the burning of Watermark. (any chance we can hold him down and pour gold down his throat before the burning?)

Now that’s simply sick, perverted and warped. How could you contaminate perfectly good gold like that?

[Jack]

Now that’s simply sick, perverted and warped. How could you contaminate perfectly good gold like that?

I thought it was 'Atonement Day'? (it was just a suggestion)

[Mott the Hoople]

I thought it was 'Atonement Day'? (it was just a suggestion)

It is but come on...how could you do that to gold? Now molten lead...

[Jack]

It is but come on...how could you do that to gold? Now molten lead...

I withdraw my suggestion. But just burning Watermark without some kind of ritual torture seems ... I don't know ... lacking, for want of a better word. (maybe a quick but painful lashing with a cat-o-nine tails?)

[Mason Melchizedek]

I withdraw my suggestion. But just burning Watermark without some kind of ritual torture seems ... I don't know ... lacking, for want of a better word. (maybe a quick but painful lashing with a cat-o-nine tails?)

Paging Samantha!

[StoneByStone]

IMHO they most certainly did.. It was very common @ the time...

The Jews & Muslims in Jerusalem didn't slaughter themselves when the Crusaders arrived..

The various Indo-Iranian & Turkish tribes in central Asia didn't stack their own skulls, Turks in Armenia etc etc etc..

Genocide was quite common back in the day & it seems almost everyone was in on it........

Just because it was common at the time, doesn't mean the Europeans did it to the Native Americans. In this one particular case, it was disease that caused mass death, not war or genocide.

[Mott the Hoople]

I withdraw my suggestion. But just burning Watermark without some kind of ritual torture seems ... I don't know ... lacking, for want of a better word. (maybe a quick but painful lashing with a cat-o-nine tails?)

Worse. Force him to talk to a woman.

[Jack]

Worse. Force him to talk to a woman.

Hmmmmmm ....

[Mott the Hoople]

I withdraw my suggestion. But just burning Watermark without some kind of ritual torture seems ... I don't know ... lacking, for want of a better word. (maybe a quick but painful lashing with a cat-o-nine tails?)

Actually you should read the account of Col. Crawford and how the Shawnee burned him at the stake in Atonement for the Moravian Indian Massacre. They didn’t just pop the good Colonel on a brush pile and light him off. They slow roasted him with lots of ritual torture involved.

[Mott the Hoople]

Just because it was common at the time, doesn't mean the Europeans did it to the Native Americans. In this one particular case, it was disease that caused mass death, not war or genocide.

You don’t have the first clue what you’re talking about. It wasn’t just disease and even so the European colonist, once they became aware of Native Americans lack of immunity purposefully and systematically spread contagion among them.