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    Washington (CNN)A federal judge on Tuesday blocked a Missouri law banning abortions after eight weeks from going into effect.

    "The various sections specifying prohibitions on abortions at various weeks prior to viability cannot be allowed to go into effect on August 28, as scheduled," writes Judge Howard Sachs in an 11-page opinion.
    "However formulated, the legislation on its face conflicts with the Supreme Court ruling that neither legislative or judicial limits on abortion can be measured by specified weeks or development of a fetus; instead, 'viability' is the sole test for a State's authority to prohibit abortions where there is no maternal health issue," Sachs wrote.

    Tuesday's ruling comes after two other federal judges blocked similar abortion restrictions in Arkansas and Ohio earlier this summer, as the slew of state laws looking to challenge Roe v. Wade, the 1973 landmark ruling legalizing abortion nationwide, make their way through the courts.

    The Missouri law in question would penalize medical professionals who perform abortions after eight weeks into a pregnancy -- before many women know that they are pregnant, and well before the 24-week viability standard established by Roe -- with up to 15 years in prison. The law does not include exceptions for instances of rape or incest, only for instances of "medical emergency," such to prevent a pregnant woman's death or "substantial and irreversible physical impairment."

    Planned Parenthood, the American Civil Liberties Union and Paul, Weiss -- the law firm that argued in support of legalizing same-sex marriage in a landmark Supreme Court case -- filed the case last month.

    The law would ban abortion outright should the Supreme Court overturn Roe. It also includes bans on abortion at 14, 18 and 20 weeks, which could go into effect if a court finds the eight-week ban invalid.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/27/polit...uri/index.html
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    I'm sure the state will appeal and move this up the food chain to the US Sct.
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    So... any thoughts on whether Roe v Wade will be overturned, and left to stand?
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    § 668. Bald and golden eagles (a) Prohibited acts; criminal penalties Whoever, within the United States or any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, without being permitted to do so as provided in this subchapter, shall knowingly, or with wanton disregard for the consequences of his act take, possess, sell, purchase, barter, offer to sell, purchase or barter, transport, export or import, at any time or in any manner any bald eagle commonly known as the American eagle or any golden eagle, alive or dead, or any part, nest, or egg thereof of the foregoing eagles, or whoever violates any permit or regulation issued pursuant to this subchapter, shall be fined not more than $5,000 or imprisoned not more than one year or both: Provided, That in the case of a second or subsequent conviction for a violation of this section committed after October 23, 1972, such person shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both: Provided further, That the commission of each taking or other act prohibited by this section with respect to a bald or golden eagle shall constitute a separate violation of this section: Provided further, That one-half of any such fine, but not to exceed $2,500, shall be paid to the person or persons giving information which leads to conviction: Provided further, That nothing herein shall be construed to prohibit possession or transportation of any bald eagle, alive or dead, or any part, nest, or egg thereof, lawfully taken prior to June 8, 1940, and that nothing herein shall be construed to prohibit possession or transportation of any golden eagle, alive or dead, or any part, nest, or egg thereof, lawfully taken prior to the addition to this subchapter of the provisions relating to preservation of the golden eagle. (b) Civil penalties Whoever, within the United States or any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, without being permitted to do so as provided in this subchapter, shall take, possess, sell, purchase, barter, offer to sell, purchase or barter, transport, export or import, at any time or in any manner, any bald eagle, commonly known as the American eagle, or any golden eagle, alive or dead, or any part, nest, or egg thereof of the foregoing eagles, or whoever violates any permit or regulation issued pursuant to this subchapter, may be assessed a civil penalty by the Secretary of not more than $5,000 for each such violation. Each violation shall be a separate offense. No penalty shall be assessed unless such person is given notice and opportunity for a hearing with respect to such violation. In determining the amount of the penalty, the gravity of the violation, and the demonstrated good faith of the person charged shall be considered by the Secretary. For good cause shown, the Secretary may remit or mitigate any such penalty. Upon any failure to pay the penalty assessed under this section, the Secretary may request the Attorney General to institute a civil action in a district court of the United States for any district in which such person is found or resides or transacts business to collect the penalty and such court shall have jurisdiction to hear and decide any such action. In hearing any such action, the court must sustain the Secretary’s action if supported by substantial evidence.
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    Poor Stretch. Her cheese done slipped off her cracker, again.

    Thanks for the bump though!
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    1:57 pm, June 16, 2019

    MIAMI BEACH, Fla. — A woman was arrested Saturday morning in Florida after allegedly stomping on a sea turtle nest and stabbing it with a wooden stake, according to WPLG.

    The Miama Beach Police confirmed none of the eggs were harmed.

    Yaqun Lu, 41, who has a permanent address in Michigan, was charged with marine turtle or egg molestation/harassment, according to Miami-Dade County jail records.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    So... any thoughts on whether Roe v Wade will be overturned, and left to stand?
    i don't think it ever gets overturned


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    Poacher caught with 299 sea turtle eggs
    Nearly 300 sea turtle eggs were returned to the beach and reburied Friday after the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission caught a man poaching them from a beach in St. Lucie County.
    Tuesday, August 19th 2014, 12:59 PM EDT by Florida Fish & Wildlife
    Updated: Tuesday, August 19th 2014, 12:59 PM EDT

    Florida Fish & Wildlife

    James McGriff

    Nearly 300 sea turtle eggs were returned to the beach and reburied Friday after the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC) caught a man poaching them from a beach in St. Lucie County.

    James Odel McGriff, 55, of Riviera Beach, was arrested and booked into the St. Lucie County jail.





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    2 men were caught stealing sea turtle eggs with plans to sell them. Instead, they’re going to prison

    By Sara Nealeigh
    February 01, 2018 08:21 AM, Updated February 01, 2018 01:22 PM

    Two Florida men were sentenced to prison after officials say they stole hundreds of sea turtle eggs from a St. Lucie County beach last year.

    Carl L. Cobb, 60, and Raymond Saunders, 50, both of Riviera Beach, were convicted of transporting sea turtle eggs for the purpose of sale. Saunders was convicted of one count while Cobb was convicted of two counts, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida.

    Court records indicate a concerned citizen reported to the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission that a man was disturbing sea turtle nests on North Hutchinson Island on May 5, 2017.

    An investigation found more than 200 eggs were missing from two sea turtle nests, and that Cobb was responsible, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office.

    Officials spotted Cobb and Saunders take another 469 eggs from nests on the same island on May 24. The men were arrested while they were taking the eggs to Palm Beach County, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office.

    Marine biologists relocated the eggs in hopes they would yield some hatchlings.

    Cobb and Saunders were each sentenced to seven months in prison to be followed by two years of supervised release and ordered to pay $227 in restitution to the State of Florida, the U.S. Attorney’s Office announced Wednesday.

    It’s estimated tens of thousands of sea turtle eggs are stolen a year, due to a black market for the eggs in South Florida that can fetch sellers $3 to $5 an egg, wildlife officials told the Sun Sentinel. In some cultures, sea turtle eggs are considered a delicacy, or can be used for jewelry or medicines.
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    They even have their own hot-line.

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    There are many ways you can make a difference for Florida’s sea turtles:

    It’s a sea turtle night, turn off the light – After sundown, turn off any lights not necessary for human safety. Use long wavelength amber LED lamps for lights that must stay lit and shield lights, so they are not visible from the beach. Remember to close shades or curtains.

    No flash photos, please – On the beach at night, don’t take flash photos or use bright cellphones or flashlights. This can cause turtles to become disoriented and crawl away from the ocean, putting them at risk.

    Sea turtles are protected and must be respected – Stay back and give sea turtles space if you see one on the beach at night. Don’t touch a nesting turtle because it may leave the beach without nesting if disturbed. Remember, it is illegal to harm or disturb nesting sea turtles, their nests, eggs or hatchlings.

    Clear the way at the end of the day – Beach furniture, canopies, boats and toys left behind on the sand can become obstacles that block nesting and hatchling turtles. Fill in any holes dug in the sand.

    Before taking any action, please report sea turtles that are sick, injured, entangled or otherwise in danger to the
    FWC’s Wildlife Alert Hotline: 1-888-404-3922, #FWC or *FWC on a cellphone or text Tip@MyFWC.com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    So... any thoughts on whether Roe v Wade will be overturned, and left to stand?
    Will never be overturned.

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    January 23, 2012
    Sea turtle nests protected by state and federal law



    There are signs common in Florida and other coastal areas warning of potential fines and imprisonment for various offenses related to endangered sea turtles and their nests. The provisions are fairly specific yet wide-ranging.

    Florida state law provides protection against taking, possessing, disturbing, mutilating, destroying or causing to be destroyed, selling or offering for sale, transferring, molesting, or harassing any marine turtle or its nest or eggs at any time.

    Federal law provides even greater protection (and criminal penalties as severe as $100,000 and a year in prison) if you “take, harass, harm, pursue, hunt, shoot, wound, kill, trap, or capture any marine turtle, turtle nest, and/or eggs, or attempt to engage in any such conduct.”

    Obviously, marine turtles are still on the endangered species list, so they are afforded these protections. We can all easily endorse such a law, recognizing the inherent value of the life of a sea turtle — even realizing that the life in the eggs is something that should be given the same level of protection.

    Yesterday was the 39th anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision. For nearly 40 years, it’s been legal to conduct abortions in the United States.

    I think it’s unfortunate that we place more value on the unborn life of a marine turtle than the unborn life of a human.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    1:57 pm, June 16, 2019

    MIAMI BEACH, Fla. — A woman was arrested Saturday morning in Florida after allegedly stomping on a sea turtle nest and stabbing it with a wooden stake, according to WPLG.

    The Miama Beach Police confirmed none of the eggs were harmed.

    Yaqun Lu, 41, who has a permanent address in Michigan, was charged with marine turtle or egg molestation/harassment, according to Miami-Dade County jail records.

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    Good I'm glad. Sea turtles are endangered.

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    Concerns for unborn ospreys........

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    Daytona Tortugas fan worries fireworks shows may harm nesting ospreys

    DAYTONA BEACH — A pair of ospreys trying to hatch eggs in a new nest at Jackie Robinson Ballpark have ruffled the feathers of a longtime local baseball fan who’s worried ballpark fireworks are disrupting the birds’ parenting efforts.

    Celine Sullivan has watched the baseball games at the stadium, first the Daytona Cubs and now the Daytona Tortugas, for more than a decade. She now buys the Silver Sluggers package and a 10-game flex pack every season for the Tortugas, a minor league baseball team affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds. She was excited for this season to begin last week, but now she’s “just sick about it.”

    more at https://www.news-journalonline.com/n...esting-ospreys
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I'm sure the state will appeal and move this up the food chain to the US Sct.
    Yes. Which is the only reason these unconstitutional laws are being rammed through.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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