Hong Kong - tip of the spear in China Peoples' REVOLT against Socialist Rule

[Bill]

I think it's the height of irony that Highgate Cemetery is charging £8 to see Marx's tomb.

I hear you can come around after hours & for an extra £5 you can piss on it & take a souvenir photo..

[Bigdog]

I refuse to engage with someone who pretends to be an armchair expert,

I just kicked your ass, Dickhead.

[Into the Night]

You wingnuts spent eight years calling Obama a "socialist".

He is a socialist.

If Obama is a socialist, then Norway most certainly is.

Norway is a monarchy. While socialism does exist in Norway, it is largely capitalist, despite the monarchy.

Norway's social welfare state and government ownership of key industries is far in excess of anything Obama ever proposed.

No, we have more government owned industries in the United States than Norway has. They are generally failing too.

If you don't want Norway to be socialist,

It largely isn't.

wingnuts owe an apology for investing eight years of their lives calling Obama a socialist.

He is a socialist. I make no apologies.

It is abundantly clear that five minutes before you typed this post, you knew virtually nothing substantive and profound about the history of socialism, the Russian Revolution, the Scandinavian model, you would not even be able to explain the difference between Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, or the Russian SRs.

Irrelevant.

My time is valuable to me, and I am not going to use to engage a wannabe armchair expert. I am cutting you loose.

Your time is not valuable. You want it valued by the government, remember?

[The Anonymous]

Three minutes before you typed this, you had no clue what or who the Provisional government was, you had no idea who Aleksandr Kerensky was, and you had no clue that there were two Russian revolutions in 1917, and you would never be able to competently explain the Russian civil war, the Green movement, the White Movement, or anything about the history of European socialism and the European left in general.

You just typed in a google search, grabbed the first thing you could find, and rushed back here to respond to me.

My time is valuable, and I refuse to engage with someone who pretends to be an armchair expert, but actually knows nothing and is utterly dependent on doing quick 20 second google searches before rushing back here in an attempt to sound informed and erudite. That is a categorical waste of my time.

Shut the fuck-up, Brian Griffin. No one is more pretentious than you.

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Three minutes before you typed this, you had no clue what or who the Provisional government was, you had no idea who Aleksandr Kerensky was, and you had no clue that there were two Russian revolutions in 1917, and you would never be able to competently explain the Russian civil war, the Green movement, the White Movement, or anything about the history of European socialism and the European left in general.

You just typed in a google search, grabbed the first thing you could find, and rushed back here to respond to me.

My time is valuable, and I refuse to engage with someone who pretends to be an armchair expert, but actually knows nothing and is utterly dependent on doing quick 20 second google searches before rushing back here in an attempt to sound informed and erudite. That is a categorical waste of my time.

Here is a prime example of a sanctimonious hectoring arrogant piss poor excuse for a man, truly a waste of space.

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Shut the fuck-up, Brian Griffin. No one is more pretentious than you.

Pretentious sexual predator, arsehole on steroids.

[cancel2 2022]

Xi showing weakness and a huge loss of face.

They won't give up though, just biding their time.

[Bigdog]

They won't give up though, just biding their time.

At this point, the protests do seem to be about more than just the extradition bill. We'll see. :0)

[Bigdog]

"China Is Running Out of Options In Hong Kong
As protests enter their sixth month and become increasingly violent and disruptive, Beijing's under pressure to get the situation under control.


... Beijing could cancel next week’s local assembly elections as a way to cement the pro-China makeup of the body and prevent a schism from forming within the government.

“There's a concern the government may postpone the District Council election to be held on November 24,” Lau said. “If so, it would cause a strong objection because many people are very keen to vote.”

But already the government has moved to ensure at least one prominent pro-democracy activist won’t be voted in. Last month it barred Joshua Wong from running, claiming he had not abandoned the belief that independence could be an option for Hong Kong's future. ... "

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n...s-in-hong-kong

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

At this point, the protests do seem to be about more than just the extradition bill. We'll see. :0)

it's kind of a big deal. if mainland china can extradite anyone, there is effectively no self rule in hong kong.

[Stretch]

Hong Kong protests: What are the 'five demands'? What do protesters want?

1 Full withdrawal of the extradition bill
2 A commission of inquiry into alleged police brutality
3 Retracting the classification of protesters as “rioters”
4 Amnesty for arrested protesters
5 Dual universal suffrage, meaning for both the Legislative Council and the Chief Executive

Read full explanations here: https://yp.scmp.com/hongkongprotests5demands

[Bigdog]

it's kind of a big deal. if mainland china can extradite anyone, there is effectively no self rule in hong kong.

Yes, it is.

Socialist China is now threatening to authorize the police to use lethal force against protesters.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

Yes, it is.

Socialist China is now threatening to authorize the police to use lethal force against protesters.

this is messed up. I so hate authoritarians.