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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    The Violent Aggressor getting shot ... should be the norm.
    The violent aggressor was the guy with the big mouth. The guy standing his ground feared for his GF's safety.


    And...SYG does NOT allow for you to start an incident, and then 'protect yourself', which is why the racist Zimmerman jury got it wrong. I'd love to know the racial makeup of this jury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    The violent aggressor was the guy with the big mouth. The guy standing his ground feared for his GF's safety.


    And...SYG does NOT allow for you to start an incident, and then 'protect yourself', which is why the racist Zimmerman jury got it wrong. I'd love to know the racial makeup of this jury.
    I've tossed my 2 cents worth in on this subject. So I have nothing more to add than something from what Benjamin Franklin supposedly said about 'freedom'. "Your Freedom stops where my nose begins".
    Once someone violently touches you, and in this case, lifts you off your feet and you end up on the ground, ... the Rules change from Verbal Debate to Physical Domination. You've left the Realm of Logic and Reasoning, and entered the Realm of Combat.
    Did you notice after the Assailant got shot in the chest, and NOT before, that he decided to retreat from the Field of Battle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    He came out and found some guy screaming at his wife. We don't know what the wannabe meter maid said to the husband before he got shoved.
    Like evince, you're using a hyperbolic and emotionally charged word ("screaming") to further an agenda. The white guy was arguing with the wife, but you can see just as the husband was approaching, she started to get out of the car, so apparently she wasn't frightened of him.

    And just because the white guy was arguing with her or more likely, scolding her for being so inconsiderate while also breaking the law, that does not give her husband the right to just walk up and shove him to the ground without even verbally warning him off first.

    This is basically Travon Martin and George Zimmernan all over again.

    A white guy tries to defend the law, a black guy resorts to a violent attack on him and the white guy shoots him for it.

    The only difference here is that in this case, the black guy had backed off when he saw the gun, so the white guy shouldn't have shot him.

    But by the same token, the black guy shouldn't have shoved him down on the pavement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Is America turning into a nation of cowards, bullying out of fear?

    (AllHipHop Opinion) Once upon a time, in Delaware, I was driving alone in my cherry red Ford Escort GT in a rural area just outside of Glasgow. I was driving and somehow got into a confrontation with a pick-up truck-driving redneck, who decided calling me "n-gger" was a good idea. Also, we were a stone's throw from Klan country to give you some context. This was the 90's and Hip-Hop was still aggressive, political and raged against injustices. Him calling me a n-gger meant it was time to fight. I stopped my car in the distance and so did he. The very moment I got out of my car, he quickly yelled to his wife to get his gun.

    Immediately. At that point, I decided it was in my best interest to leave. I was unarmed.

    My Sunday morning was ruined for me. After a vacation, I was able to see what I had heard: another unarmed man was shot in Florida. This time, it was over a parking space. A handicap parking space. The matter resulted in Markeis McGlockton, 29, being shot dead by Michael Drejka, 47, after a shove put him on his butt. Mind you, Drejka was raging at McGlockton family - his girlfriend and their children - as they sat in a minivan. Drejka's angst was such that somebody eventually summoned McGlockton, who came running to defend his family.

    He did what I would have done.

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    Stand your ground law is a coward's law that protects cowardly acts.

    Except, Drejka was found guilty, so whatever point Mr. AllHiHop was trying to make about Stand You Ground laws doesn't apply.
    Oopsy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    The violent aggressor was the guy with the big mouth. The guy standing his ground feared for his GF's safety.


    And...SYG does NOT allow for you to start an incident, and then 'protect yourself', which is why the racist Zimmerman jury got it wrong. I'd love to know the racial makeup of this jury.
    Sorry, but you are wrong on all counts.

    1) The white guy did not physically assault the woman. Having a verbal altercation is not a justification for pushing someone down.

    2) SYG applies to anyone, whether they started the altercation or not. The first one to resort to physical violence, is the one who can have deadly force used against him, no matter who started the altercation.

    3) The Zimmerman jury was neither racist nor wrong in their decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    The violent aggressor was the guy with the big mouth. The guy standing his ground feared for his GF's safety.


    And...SYG does NOT allow for you to start an incident, and then 'protect yourself', which is why the racist Zimmerman jury got it wrong. I'd love to know the racial makeup of this jury.
    I wonder why so many liberals caterwaul so about SYG laws then. Maybe they don't understand how they work or why some states chose to adopt them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    Except, Drejka was found guilty, so whatever point Mr. AllHiHop was trying to make about Stand You Ground laws doesn't apply.
    Oopsy.

    He was saying, like I said stand your ground laws are for cowards to protect cowardly acts?!!

    It's about cowardice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    He was saying, like I said stand your ground laws are for cowards to protect cowardly acts?!!

    It's about cowardice!
    Well, in the case he chose to cite, SYG didn't apply. Kind of detracts from his credibility. Do "cowards" have less of a right to defend themselves from assault than "brave and strong" people?

    That's the problem with you lefties. So... Many... Ad hominem attacks... So little substance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    If I came out of the store to see some asshole screaming at my kids for being in a car I would very likely be ready to fuck the guy up


    what words did the gun nutter heave at this mans family when he walked up on him


    He was packing already


    he was screaming at a woman and children who did NOT approach HIM


    Image walking up as some stranger is screaming evil shit at your family


    I would have been ready to take him down physically too.


    but Im a white lady so if the guy shot me NO ONE would have questioned me shoving his ass to the ground
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Notice how Big Media always slows down the video so it looks like the shooter had plenty of time to see the thug was backing away. In real time, it was over in an instant.
    I was waiting for someone to mention this; because it's the ONLY way you can see what appears to be him backing away.

    I guess everyone should have the ability to stop action and reply it in slow mo, before defending themselves.

    I wonder what's going to occur during the appeal??
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    I would have kicked him in the dick
    You would have to be pretty flexible to do that, seeing as how you would have probably been sucking his dick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    You couldn't fuck up a paper bag, if it was wet and you were inside it.
    I don't know, if her crack pipe was inside the bag, she'd shred it pretty fast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    who rolled up on whom you fucking idiot?


    he walked out of the store to see some ASSHOLE MAN threatening his wife and children and blocking his access to his own vehicle


    But hes was Black and the people he was protecting are black so your racist fucking ass sides with a murderer
    What did he say that was threatening??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Here's some interesting points mentioned by our friends at SF

    >prosecution played slow motion version of the security footage to make it seem like he waited longer before shooting
    >testimony about the PCP in his system was banned by the judge
    >testimony about the drugs in his pocket was banned by judge
    >sheriff who said it was a legal shooting was banned from testifying by judge
    >prosecutor called drejka a "right wing nutjob" and said "a real man doesn't carry a gun"
    >his prior felony arrests for assault was banned from being mentioned by the judge
    >some woman who claims drejka once threatened her was allowed to testify even though there is no police report or any evidence to back up her story
    And this will probably be brought up in the appeal and could very well result in the conviction being overturned and a new trial ordered to be held, unless the appeal judge dismisses all charges with prejudice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcat13th View Post
    All you can do is speculate. But a good rule of thumb, dont roll up on people. If he had a problem and he wasnt prepared to die suddenly, he should have done the right thing and called the cops instead of trying to take mattets into his own hands. But he didnt did he. And now he's dead. The lesson will be learned by others. (Unless they're stupid) so where do you like to park, just wondering.
    There was plenty of room, so why didn't he just stand between his wife and the guy??

    OH-WAIT, it's because he was bigger, FELT he could just attack someone, and get away with it..
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