WHEN WE NEED OUR ALLIES MOST: trump IS INSULTING THEM-HOW IS MAGA???

[Bigdog]

How well do you know your foe??

Very well. And We are in a position of immense economic and military strength. Trump's election at this time in our history ... is a perfect storm. He's the right man for America at the right time.

[Bill]

This is a warning shot that that might happen.

If Xi wants to play hardball, then sanctions should be on the table. Why not?

Because it will hurt a lot of Americans & American businesses......

Something like that should be a last resort

[Bill]

Very well. And We are in a position of immense economic and military strength. Trump's election at this time in our history ... is a perfect storm. He's the right man for America at the right time.

Militarily perhaps, how are we economically.

BRI & all those signed up??

[Bigdog]

Because it will hurt a lot of Americans & American businesses......

Something like that should be a last resort

It might hurt some a little bit. Some may need some temporary gov't aid. That's certainly not unprecedented. But overall, it would help American businesses and workers.

China has to worry about its Asian competitors waiting in the wings to replace them. And if Xi makes the wrong moves, he could trigger a peoples revolution in China.

Well, I think after tariffs, sanctions is the next and last step.

[anatta]

There are certainly things that can be made better, but this is a recipe for disaster......

Lots of you trust him, a lot, but if he is wrong our country is & will continue to pay the huge price for these blunders

Trump heading to G-7 summit after insulting allied world leaders

As President Trump departs for France to represent the U.S. at the G-7 summit of world leaders, the memories of the insults he has leveled against key U.S. allies will still be fresh, and he'll be interacting with some of those same leaders over the next few days.

In recent weeks, the president has lashed out at some of the United States' steadfast friends, while offering glowing words for strongmen like North Korea's Kim Jong Un and Russia's Vladimir Putin. In recent days, Mr. Trump has revived his suggestion that Russia should be reinstated into the group of seven leaders of major advanced economies, blaming former President Obama for allowing Russia to annex Crimea. Mr. Trump sometimes suggests America's friends treat her worse than her enemies, particularly on trade, a worldview and approach to international politics that critics say sends the wrong signal to a watching world.

"Our allies take advantage of us far greater than our enemies," the president told his audience at a manufacturing plant in Pennsylvania earlier this month.

Earlier this week, the president unloaded on Denmark's prime minister for suggesting Greenland is indeed not for sale, describing her comments as "nasty" and suddenly canceling his trip to Denmark. Mr. Trump described his disgust in detail to reporters on the White House South Lawn Wednesday.

"No – Denmark, I looked forward to going, but I thought that the prime minister's statement – that it was absurd; that it was an absurd idea – it was nasty," Mr. Trump said Wednesday. "I thought it was an inappropriate statement. All she had to do is say, 'No, we wouldn't be interested.' But we can't treat the United States of America the way they treated us under President Obama. I thought it was a very not nice way of saying something."

He's also laid into Britain, France and Germany for not taking back ISIS fighters captured in Syria, threatening to release the fighters back into those countries.

"And, by the way, we're holding thousands of ISIS fighters right now, and Europe has to take them," Mr. Trump also told reporters on the White House South Lawn Wednesday. "And if Europe doesn't take them, I'll have no choice but to release them into the countries from which they came, which is Germany, and France, and other places."

The president has also voiced intense frustration with G-7 member France and French President Emmanuel Macron over trade-related issues, even threatening to place tariffs on French wines.

"France just put a digital tax on our great American technology companies," the president tweeted last month. "If anybody taxes them, it should be their home Country, the USA. We will announce a substantial reciprocal action on Macron's foolishness shortly."

Mr. Trump, who does not drink alcohol, added, "I've always said American wine is better than French wine!"

more chaos @ source

don't care. for too long the EU has hit us with tariffs and lack of market access ( but not on the scale of China)

Russia should be in the G-8.
remember the goal was always the integration of Russia in to the western economies
and NOT A DIRECT MILITARY AN ECONOMIC PARTNER WITH CHINA

we got a lot of realignment to do

[cawacko]

There are certainly things that can be made better, but this is a recipe for disaster......

Lots of you trust him, a lot, but if he is wrong our country is & will continue to pay the huge price for these blunders

Trump heading to G-7 summit after insulting allied world leaders

As President Trump departs for France to represent the U.S. at the G-7 summit of world leaders, the memories of the insults he has leveled against key U.S. allies will still be fresh, and he'll be interacting with some of those same leaders over the next few days.

In recent weeks, the president has lashed out at some of the United States' steadfast friends, while offering glowing words for strongmen like North Korea's Kim Jong Un and Russia's Vladimir Putin. In recent days, Mr. Trump has revived his suggestion that Russia should be reinstated into the group of seven leaders of major advanced economies, blaming former President Obama for allowing Russia to annex Crimea. Mr. Trump sometimes suggests America's friends treat her worse than her enemies, particularly on trade, a worldview and approach to international politics that critics say sends the wrong signal to a watching world.

"Our allies take advantage of us far greater than our enemies," the president told his audience at a manufacturing plant in Pennsylvania earlier this month.

Earlier this week, the president unloaded on Denmark's prime minister for suggesting Greenland is indeed not for sale, describing her comments as "nasty" and suddenly canceling his trip to Denmark. Mr. Trump described his disgust in detail to reporters on the White House South Lawn Wednesday.

"No – Denmark, I looked forward to going, but I thought that the prime minister's statement – that it was absurd; that it was an absurd idea – it was nasty," Mr. Trump said Wednesday. "I thought it was an inappropriate statement. All she had to do is say, 'No, we wouldn't be interested.' But we can't treat the United States of America the way they treated us under President Obama. I thought it was a very not nice way of saying something."

He's also laid into Britain, France and Germany for not taking back ISIS fighters captured in Syria, threatening to release the fighters back into those countries.

"And, by the way, we're holding thousands of ISIS fighters right now, and Europe has to take them," Mr. Trump also told reporters on the White House South Lawn Wednesday. "And if Europe doesn't take them, I'll have no choice but to release them into the countries from which they came, which is Germany, and France, and other places."

The president has also voiced intense frustration with G-7 member France and French President Emmanuel Macron over trade-related issues, even threatening to place tariffs on French wines.

"France just put a digital tax on our great American technology companies," the president tweeted last month. "If anybody taxes them, it should be their home Country, the USA. We will announce a substantial reciprocal action on Macron's foolishness shortly."

Mr. Trump, who does not drink alcohol, added, "I've always said American wine is better than French wine!"

more chaos @ source

You’re seeing certain people on the right celebrating Koch’s death (and some think bi-partisanship is dead) because he’s a globalist and you’re asking if they are upset that foreign leaders don’t like Trump? Come on now...

[anatta]

We can fight a 20 front economic war and win it.

recall China delayed when it pullled back from previous position already negotiated by Lighthizer.
This is really economic warfare. It wasn't suppposed to be,but for China the best result of negotiation is no change to the status quo..

The EU will come around and so will China like Canada did with NAFTA 2. but China is using up it's cash reserves and manipulating it's currency in order to wait Trump out if he loses re-election..

China wants us to get cold feet and Trump to throw in the towel for his re-election.
But we are not going to crak, and when this finally ends the US trade position will be vastly improve worldwide
but we gotta hang in ( and Congress needs to ratify NAFTA 2 as an example)

[Bigdog]

Militarily perhaps, how are we economically.

BRI & all those signed up??

Militarily, obviously.

Our only economic vulnerability was energy, and we are Now a net exporter. That's a Yuge game changer.

The BRI has made China more vulnerable to economic and political pressure. They have a good faith business reputation to uphold, now. And Chinese military action in foreign BRI countries would be like lighting a powder keg. JMHO

[anatta]

Militarily, obviously.

Our only economic vulnerability was energy, and we are Now a net exporter. That's a Yuge game changer.

The BRI has made China more vulnerable to economic and political pressure. They have a good faith business reputation to uphold, now. And Chinese military action in foreign BRI countries would be like lighting a powder keg. JMHO

yep. they gotta service the debt for the BRI infrastructure,and they depend on high growth-
but also their malign behaviors

[Bigdog]

recall China delayed when it pullled back from previous position already negotiated by Lighthizer.
This is really economic warfare. It wasn't suppposed to be,but for China the best result of negotiation is no change to the status quo..

The EU will come around and so will China like Canada did with NAFTA 2. but China is using up it's cash reserves and manipulating it's currency in order to wait Trump out if he loses re-election..

China wants us to get cold feet and Trump to throw in the towel for his re-election.
But we are not going to crak, and when this finally ends the US trade position will be vastly improve worldwide
but we gotta hang in ( and Congress needs to ratify NAFTA 2 as an example)

Fortunately, the status quo is not in Chinese control. And Trump has always been prepared for economic warfare with China. You might even say ... "its his thing". :0)

We already talked some about the countries lining up to attack and influence our 2020 elections in an effort to take out Trump. It's going to be big.

[Bill]

don't care. for too long the EU has hit us with tariffs and lack of market access ( but not on the scale of China)

Russia should be in the G-8.
remember the goal was always the integration of Russia in to the western economies
and NOT A DIRECT MILITARY AN ECONOMIC PARTNER WITH CHINA

we got a lot of realignment to do

I don't see Russia being in or out as anything more than a political move & I can't even recall what it is suppose to accomplish.

No one seems to agree that having our allies on our side is a good idea....

[Bill]

You’re seeing certain people on the right celebrating Koch’s death (and some think bi-partisanship is dead) because he’s a globalist and you’re asking if they are upset that foreign leaders don’t like Trump? Come on now...

Sorry wacko, I dunno what your talking about...... I dunno anything about the guys death, not read about it, here or anywhere-RIP..

What ppl think of him or his business/politics...

So do you have an opinion on going to war w/ China will doing the same w/ our allies? thanks

[Bill]

recall China delayed when it pullled back from previous position already negotiated by Lighthizer.
This is really economic warfare. It wasn't suppposed to be,but for China the best result of negotiation is no change to the status quo..

The EU will come around and so will China like Canada did with NAFTA 2. but China is using up it's cash reserves and manipulating it's currency in order to wait Trump out if he loses re-election..

China wants us to get cold feet and Trump to throw in the towel for his re-election.
But we are not going to crak, and when this finally ends the US trade position will be vastly improve worldwide
but we gotta hang in ( and Congress needs to ratify NAFTA 2 as an example)

@ the current rate how long will they have to use up that cash??

What are they using it on??

[Bigdog]

I don't see Russia being in or out as anything more than a political move & I can't even recall what it is suppose to accomplish.

No one seems to agree that having our allies on our side is a good idea....

On our side for what cause?

They are not going to abandon us as economic partners.

[Bill]

Militarily, obviously.

Our only economic vulnerability was energy, and we are Now a net exporter. That's a Yuge game changer.

The BRI has made China more vulnerable to economic and political pressure. They have a good faith business reputation to uphold, now. And Chinese military action in foreign BRI countries would be like lighting a powder keg. JMHO

You see no advantages to the BRI??