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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Good argument....a bended knee to your intellectual greatness. How has it been working out for the US TAXPAYER while not Going it alone over the past 50 years? So many police actions, so much money and blood transferred to the EU and others...resulting in what? Over 20 Trillion dollars in debt. Yeah....lets go it alone and pay our own bills and let the world eat their own cake they have baked. For the 1st time in over half a century the US can tell the world to go to hell in a hand basket as the US is now energy independent and could sustain itself for well over 200 years.
    Well you can put a big idea in a couple lines, good for you, to bad they are not good ideas.

    We disagree on this, obviously, but maybe not entirely, depends how it plays out.......

    But if trump was that stupid, & I do believe he is, he is making a YUGE tactical error fighting on two fronts....

    He should stop shitting on the allies & incorporate them & then after the victory he could deal w/ them..

    This merely assures the winner won't be the USA........
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Can you even begin to imagine the Reichwing outrage if Obama had ordered American companies to stop doing business in and with another country???? They could righteously claim that that is fascism, and they'd be correct. But if Twittler does it? <crickets>
    Yep....... That is what is kinda funny, in a sad way....... I can see so many of the rationals used to defend trump as being exactly the opposite if it were Obama or another dem......
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Being allies with any one person or group of people or countries is a 2 way street. We're just finally
    holding up a STOP sign to some who have run all over us for years.
    So you agree that fighting a two front economic war is in the best interest of the USA- even when it obviously is not making America great, or even better....

    You will prob never run out of excuses or defense no matter how much of a mess he makes of the country & planet..........
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    So you agree that fighting a two front economic war is in the best interest of the USA- even when it obviously is not making America great, or even better....

    You will prob never run out of excuses or defense no matter how much of a mess he makes of the country & planet..........
    Not really. I'm not that deep. The U.S. is doing fine with Prez Trump. That's about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    The U.S. is doing fine with Prez Trump.
    you're as dumb as a post

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    you're as dumb as a post
    Truthiness abounds.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Not really. I'm not that deep. The U.S. is doing fine with Prez Trump. That's about it.
    The planet will go when it goes. Don't litter, don't pollute, live and be happy. Life's short.
    You HIPPYchick..

    j/k....
    Last edited by Bill; 08-23-2019 at 07:32 PM.
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Truthiness abounds.
    White trash! His persona and his appearance. His brain is a trash receptacle full of GARBAGE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Not really. I'm not that deep. The U.S. is doing fine with Prez Trump. That's about it.
    The planet will go when it goes. Don't litter, don't pollute, live and be happy. Life's short.
    The US is not doing fine! Neither economically for the bottom 3/4 of population or the social fabric for 100% of us. And that doesn't even begin to address the environment we are fucking up by the day while we ignore massive structural deficits, schools, roads, buildings and untouched messes from the very weather changes we are ignoring.

    We are not doing fine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Yep....... That is what is kinda funny, in a sad way....... I can see so many of the rationals used to defend trump as being exactly the opposite if it were Obama or another dem......
    Are U.S. companies allowed to do business with Iran ... or Russia? ... They're called Sanctions, Bill. And the one Trump "ordered" is Not Forced by the gov't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Perhaps.........

    I think he is rude & crass & we need our allies now, more than we have in a long, long time....... The trade war w/ China is set to go to the next level, you think we should be fighting a two front war against China & EUROPEAN UNION???

    I would think a wise leader would deal first w/ the biggest threat first-China w/ our allies on our side..

    After victory they can be dealt w/...........

    Or does that not make sense to you??
    Trump can fit in at a Red Carpet event ... or a construction site. That is a skill, not a detriment. Surely, you have the same talent, Bill.

    No one has sullied the office of the president more than Bill Clinton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    So you agree that fighting a two front economic war is in the best interest of the USA- even when it obviously is not making America great, or even better....

    You will prob never run out of excuses or defense no matter how much of a mess he makes of the country & planet..........
    We can fight a 20 front economic war and win it.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Are U.S. companies allowed to do business with Iran ... or Russia? ... They're called Sanctions, Bill. And the one Trump "ordered" is Not Forced by the gov't.
    He has been trying for a few years to convince them to come home to no avail..

    Hopefully he does not attempt to use force....

    Do you think he should use "sanctions" to stop Americans from having businesses in China??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    We can fight a 20 front economic war and win it.
    How well do you know your foe??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    He has been trying for a few years to convince them to come home to no avail..

    Hopefully he does not attempt to use force....

    Do you think he should use "sanctions" to stop Americans from having businesses in China??
    This is a warning shot that that might happen.

    If Xi wants to play hardball, then sanctions should be on the table. Why not?
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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