Biden: 'There's an awful lot of really good Republicans out there'

[Celticguy]

Clever on his part from a big picture perspective but the snowflakes will hate it.

[dukkha]

Clever on his part from a big picture perspective but the snowflakes will hate it.

Biden campain is running on fumes - no way he gets the nomination

[countryboy]

So you don't deny the attempts @ intimidation??

What, you mean liberal senators threatening SCOTUS?

[TOP]

Biden campain is running on fumes - no way he gets the nomination

Who else would get it?

[cawacko]

That's the Democrats -party unity. The Republicans are masquerading as a "party" when push comes to shove

That’s not true. Go look at the Obama years, Republicans were very unified against him. And, for example, look at the democrats that supported Bush’s tax cuts and Iraq War (cherry picking two examples of the past).

I know you are passionate about the wall and tariffs but the reality is those are not traditional republican positions. And as a free trader myself I know there are many who are glad there are republicans in congress who are standing up against it. They wouldn’t support this if a D did it and they are not going to support it because a R does.

You and others are free to disagree of course but it’s consistent with their positions of the past.

Edit: and look at Republican support for trump. Very high. Hardly a party lacking unity

[evince]

Biden is definitely old school in this mindset. The nature of the beast today, especially in the internet/social media era, is you’re either on my “side/team” or you are evil. And there is no in between.

Moscow Mitch


your party is run by racists who embrace Putin


we hate traitors

[Celticguy]

Who else would get it?

TD may have called it with the homosexual.
He can't win but he is not the freak show the rest are.

[cawacko]

I realize the quislings like McConnell and Ryan are two faced liars that strung Trump out on legislation the wall - does that make them #neverTrump or were they corporate whores already beforehand?
Either way they did not deliver what the majority of Repubs want ( not all -majority) -and they slow-walked the newbie Trump

2019 looks to be yet another year of 1,000,000+ plus illegal crossings.
Mexico and Guatemala are doing more to stop the flow then the US Congress

You are 100% free to disagree with those don't want a wall and if you think folks who don't support a wall are corporate whores that is your right as well. I'm saying this has been a long held position by many Republicans, well before Trump.

If you came to me and said these Republicans all supported a wall before Trump and now don't then I'd buy your #nevertrump premise. But these folks haven't supported a wall in the past.

[Mason Melchizedek]

You are 100% free to disagree with those don't want a wall and if you think folks who don't support a wall are corporate whores that is your right as well. I'm saying this has been a long held position by many Republicans, well before Trump.

If you came to me and said these Republicans all supported a wall before Trump and now don't then I'd buy your #nevertrump premise. But these folks haven't supported a wall in the past.

I support the Wall 100%!
As long as it's as Trump promised, "Mexico will pay for the Wall"

[dukkha]

You are 100% free to disagree with those don't want a wall and if you think folks who don't support a wall are corporate whores that is your right as well. I'm saying this has been a long held position by many Republicans, well before Trump.

If you came to me and said these Republicans all supported a wall before Trump and now don't then I'd buy your #nevertrump premise. But these folks haven't supported a wall in the past.

Frankly I'm not interested in Establishment Republicans -they are the same Swamp as the Dems with the added baggage of being a bunch of losers. One reason I will never be a Republican long term

My point thpgh was on the quisling leadership. Ryan and McConnel both slow walked ( read killed) any chance for a wall first term.
They didn't even bring it to the floor, but they sure got their tax plan done.
Both are equally important if for different reasons. I am pretty sure if they had advanced the wall that would have passed as well -but they didn't even try

[dukkha]

That’s not true. Go look at the Obama years, Republicans were very unified against him. And, for example, look at the democrats that supported Bush’s tax cuts and Iraq War (cherry picking two examples of the past).

I know you are passionate about the wall and tariffs but the reality is those are not traditional republican positions. And as a free trader myself I know there are many who are glad there are republicans in congress who are standing up against it. They wouldn’t support this if a D did it and they are not going to support it because a R does.

You and others are free to disagree of course but it’s consistent with their positions of the past.

Edit: and look at Republican support for trump. Very high. Hardly a party lacking unity

they can't pass anything except tax cuts ?and that is unity? Maybe it's the leadership.

The trade negotiations are really not about tariffs -they are about curbing Chinese malign behavior as well
IPR theft/forced Joint venture/espionage -and flagrant violations of WTO protocols.

You cn't have "free trade" if China is putting tariffs on our exports,and we not theirs.
IOW's free trade does require "fair trade" -the choice is that or continue the slow bleeding of jobs
and billions a year in trade deficits to China.

I don't support tariffs either except as a necessary means to an end -and you can see just how much resistence China is giving after years of coddling by the US ( both partys)

[Bill]

Biden is definitely old school in this mindset. The nature of the beast today, especially in the internet/social media era, is you’re either on my “side/team” or you are evil. And there is no in between.

Kinda funny how so many ppl take Joe so seriously all the time........

He is working a campaign slogan/strategy... Reaching out to get the nom & across the aisle @ the same time........

While many, if not most in the dem party tend to dismiss & write off those ppl, & cringe @ the thought of reaching out to them-like hillary, he isn't writing them off just yet.....

That does seem to annoy some ppl..

[cawacko]

Frankly I'm not interested in Establishment Republicans -they are the same Swamp as the Dems with the added baggage of being a bunch of losers. One reason I will never be a Republican long term

My point thpgh was on the quisling leadership. Ryan and McConnel both slow walked ( read killed) any chance for a wall first term.
They didn't even bring it to the floor, but they sure got their tax plan done.
Both are equally important if for different reasons. I am pretty sure if they had advanced the wall that would have passed as well -but they didn't even try

TBH, I didn't follow the wall funding (or anything Congress did) all that closely but my limited understanding is they didn't have the votes which isn't surprising. I'm not sure if being against a wall makes one an establishment Republican or not, plenty of Libertarians are against it, but it's never been a subject all Republicans supported.

Congress is definitely broken and it's far more than just elect more Republicans or elect more Democrats. It's deeper than that.

[Bill]

RINO!!!!!!!!!

[cawacko]

they can't pass anything except tax cuts ?and that is unity? Maybe it's the leadership.

The trade negotiations are really not about tariffs -they are about curbing Chinese malign behavior as well
IPR theft/forced Joint venture/espionage -and flagrant violations of WTO protocols.

You cn't have "free trade" if China is putting tariffs on our exports,and we not theirs.
IOW's free trade does require "fair trade" -the choice is that or continue the slow bleeding of jobs
and billions a year in trade deficits to China.

I don't support tariffs either except as a necessary means to an end -and you can see just how much resistence China is giving after years of coddling by the US ( both partys)

They have plenty of unity in passing outrageous spending bills. But again I point to the Obama years. That was basically the definition of party unity.

China needs to be addressed and ultimately it needs to be done on a bi-partisan basis because it's that important of an issue to the country. But tariffs which punish the global economy and ourselves isn't the way to go about it. It will ultimately take an (American led) effort between America and allies going against Beijing. Not how we're going about it now.