What is “White Nationalism”?

[Bill]

What a friend they have in trump



Governments have underestimated a growing, and murderous, threat


Modern white nationalism, which has spread across the world, first emerged in America after the civil war. With the end of slavery, states took action to preserve the privileged position of American Protestants of western European heritage, including “Jim Crow” laws that enforced segregation. Others took to paramilitary violence and lynchings. The fixation with being white grew with increased immigration, especially of Chinese people, Irish Catholics, southern Europeans and Jews. New immigration acts were designed to restrict the number of new arrivals. Madison Grant’s “The Passing of the Great Race”, published in 1916, melded nativist sentiment with eugenics to produce a theory of white supremacy and “race suicide”. Adolf Hitler reportedly wrote to Grant, stating that the book was “his bible”.


Though discredited by the war against Nazism and later by the civil-rights struggles of the 1950s and 60s, white nationalism experienced a resurgence towards the end of the 20th century, leading to a number of violent attacks in America and Europe.

In 1988 David Lane wrote “The White Genocide Manifesto”, giving a new name to Grant’s theory of “race suicide”. This text introduced the world to white nationalism’s rallying cry: “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children”, a phrase canonised by white nationalists as “the 14 words”. Beyond a core belief in white superiority, white nationalists vary widely in their views. Some share the deep suspicion of the federal government found in militia groups; some embrace a revisionist history of the civil war that glorifies the Confederacy; some believe in anti-Semitic conspiracies about global Jewish control, including the theory that an internationalist Jewish elite is responsible for encouraging immigration. “”The Turner Diaries”, a white-nationalist dystopic fantasy published in 1978 by William Luther Pierce, told the story of an armed insurrection against the federal government by defenders of the white race.


Last year right-wing extremists killed more people in America than in any year since 1995, the year of the Oklahoma City bombing. The vast majority of these were by white supremacists. It is a threat that authorities in the West have taken too lightly.

https://www.economist.com/the-econom...te-nationalism

Was just reading another thread about "the proud boys"....... & was wondering why there is no mention??

[StoneByStone]

I'm saying the number of its adherents is immensely smaller than the fake news media would have you believe.

Yes and no. Most white people don't consider themselves White Nationalist, but most people prefer being around their own race, which is why do many white people do want to keep America white, even if they don't call themselves White Nationalists.

[Bill]

Yes and no. Most white people don't consider themselves White Nationalist, but most people prefer being around their own race, which is why do many white people do want to keep America white, even if they don't call themselves White Nationalists.

Is that what it's like where you live??

I would say most want assimilation, not race enclaves/segregation etc.......

[StoneByStone]

Is that what it's like where you live??

It is, but not in an obvious way. Everyone is against racism, few people call themselves White Nationalist, but virtually everyone self-segregates without even thinking about it. And it was the same thing when I was living in New York.

I would say most want assimilation, not race enclaves/segregation etc.......

I'm sure that's what most people tell themselves. I don't think people like this are lying. But when they're actually in a multiracial society, they self-segregate and complain about how the neighborhoods "are changing." All of a sudden, they're totally against "illegal immigrants" moving in.

It's kind of like religion. People tell themselves they believe in whatever religion they are, but their actions tells us that on some level, they know that there probably is no god. Likewise, we're all Nationalists to a degree, some of us are just afraid to fully accept it.

[Bill]

It is, but not in an obvious way. Everyone is against racism, few people call themselves White Nationalist, but virtually everyone self-segregates without even thinking about it. And it was the same thing when I was living in New York.



I'm sure that's what most people tell themselves. I don't think people like this are lying. But when they're actually in a multiracial society, they self-segregate and complain about how the neighborhoods "are changing." All of a sudden, they're totally against "illegal immigrants" moving in.

It's kind of like religion. People tell themselves they believe in whatever religion they are, but their actions tells us that on some level, they know that there probably is no god. Likewise, we're all Nationalists to a degree, some of us are just afraid to fully accept it.

Where you in the city???

For you, & perhaps some others race is the most important thing, that isn't universal.....

Even w/ the proud boyz page in the other thread they essentially talk about western culture -not white race....... How true or not that is I dunno, I have never met any of them.........

I have met far more ppl where race takes a back seat to religion, politics, sports teams, neighborhood, activities w/ kids etc etc

[saltydancin]

It's kind of like religion. People tell themselves they believe in whatever religion they are, but their actions tells us that on some level, they know that there probably is no god. Likewise, we're all Nationalists to a degree, some of us are just afraid to fully accept it.

Ain't no kinda like religion as it's no different from that "serve the pope or die" diatribe, where white nationalism KKK churchstate suicidal superegos in homicidal sociopsychopathilogical human farming continue actions as those Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate cops business with Al Qaeda "death to the infidels" to nuke Temple Mount on 9/11 & when that failed exterminated 4 million of Islam for failing to uphold a contract of Christ existed before God to kill all the Jews in NYC & Israel. Now USA white nationalism is upholding their "man is God" Christiananality Islamophobia pedophilia business contracts with mass shootings in those burning Bush's not so patriot act of 9/11 deaths as in past history of all those 20tieth century Christian Nation thieving US Constitution - old glory - old testament arsonists federal sin SCOTUS standing with immaculate drug conceptions for that fabricated misnomer of one nation under God with equal justice under law national religion.

[PostmodernProphet]

Not saying it's irrelevant, but the Jewish community considers someone Jewish if they have Jewish ancestry, regardless of what they believe in. If Jewishness is judged by ancestry, then the Jews are an ethnicity, not a religion.

you're just saying that so you can discriminate against them.......

[PostmodernProphet]

I'm an Ethnic Nationalist, not a White Nationalist.

if you say that ten times quickly do the stains come off?.....

[StoneByStone]

you're just saying that so you can discriminate against them.......

Have you done absolutely ANY research on Jews? Atheist Jews are still considered Jewish by the Jewish community.

[saltydancin]

you're just saying that so you can discriminate against them.......

No doubt brought up & taught Jews can't be choosers in slavery to 21st century Christiananality Islamophobia pedophilia business ventures just as WW II Nazi concentration camp defamations of just following orders.

[StoneByStone]

Ain't no kinda like religion as it's no different from that "serve the pope or die" diatribe, where white nationalism KKK churchstate suicidal superegos in homicidal sociopsychopathilogical human farming continue actions as those Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate cops business with Al Qaeda "death to the infidels" to nuke Temple Mount on 9/11 & when that failed exterminated 4 million of Islam for failing to uphold a contract of Christ existed before God to kill all the Jews in NYC & Israel. Now USA white nationalism is upholding their "man is God" Christiananality Islamophobia pedophilia business contracts with mass shootings in those burning Bush's not so patriot act of 9/11 deaths as in past history of all those 20tieth century Christian Nation thieving US Constitution - old glory - old testament arsonists federal sin SCOTUS standing with immaculate drug conceptions for that fabricated misnomer of one nation under God with equal justice under law national religion.

What language is this?

[PostmodernProphet]

Have you done absolutely ANY research on Jews? Atheist Jews are still considered Jewish by the Jewish community.

lol no.......I can't imagine why anyone except an anti-Semite would research Jews.......

[PostmodernProphet]

What language is this?

its someone using one of those apps that generate posts........people who haven't the wits to think their own thoughts use them......

[StoneByStone]

Where you in the city???

For you, & perhaps some others race is the most important thing, that isn't universal.....

Even w/ the proud boyz page in the other thread they essentially talk about western culture -not white race....... How true or not that is I dunno, I have never met any of them.........

I have met far more ppl where race takes a back seat to religion, politics, sports teams, neighborhood, activities w/ kids etc etc

Yes, I've always lived in cities.

Race isn't the most important thing to me either. I just accept that it is an important part of ethnicity and society.

Maybe the Proud Boys are Cuckservatives who think race has nothing to do with culture, but if so, I'm guessing they're the type that self-segregate. Look at how white their marches are.

Race generally isn't an issue until multiracialism is forced on people. When the UK was virtually all white, there was no White Nationalism there. Everyone was just British, and there were a few minorities, but it was no big deal. Now that the borders are open and the UK is being flooded with Africans and Middle Easterners, the British are thinking in terms of race and Nationalist parties are gaining power.

[saltydancin]

its someone using one of those apps that generate posts........people who haven't the wits to think their own thoughts use them......

Born in Washington, D.C. live like a refugee English removed from every form of tyranny over the mind of man white nationalism in a Christian Nation cross conditioned way beyond therapy megalomaniacal pedophilia business crusades that as suicidal seemingly choose to put on a cross that's higher than the flag.