Trump losing trade war, which will he give up; tariffs or a second term?

**Rune** · 08-20-2019, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by dukkha

Runeatic has devolved into my very own troll with nothing else to contribute

You are posting in my thread, Ironic Man.

**Earl** · 08-20-2019, 08:09 AM

President Trump will do wha t is best for America, unlike the radical Democrat Socialists who do what is best for the radical Democrat Socialists.

**dukkha** · 08-20-2019, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Rune

You are posting in my thread, Ironic Man.

that IS Ironic! You troll uor own thread and offer nothing

**dukkha** · 08-20-2019, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by Bill

So trump has been saying.. Oddly we don't hear China saying that

Perhaps it is just me, but I don't think they take him as seriously as you ppl do.........

If Biden wins what are you afraid he will do?? End the impotent tariffs & give Americans instant tax relief??

Whoever wins the election. this simply taxing Americans till China capitulates isn't going to win the trade war-they are many moves ahead......

That isn't trump's fault, but his plan isn't going to work........ It just isn't as easy as he thought, he should have done his research before he went against all the experts, even in his own admin...........

like what? serious negotiations caused by tariffs and time pressure to do so? yes indeed

**Minister of Truth** · 08-20-2019, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Rune

Says the government stooge with the GovCo paycheck.

Why do you love China?

**Minister of Truth** · 08-20-2019, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by dukkha

sanctions in Russia's case. the problem with isolating Russia of course is that it forces Putin and Xi into
a tighter and tighter military and economic alliance..

If we had ANY SENSE -
we'd try to do the old Nixon "China card" approach to Russia and isolate China even further

Nixon had the advantage that the two countries were belligerents toward one another when he came into office, and that China was in a weak position compared with today.

**Rune** · 08-20-2019, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by Earl

President Trump will do wha t is best for America, unlike the radical Democrat Socialists who do what is best for the radical Democrat Socialists.

Translation; Trump will do what is best for Trump's.

**Rune** · 08-20-2019, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck

Why do you love China?

We are symbiotic with China at this point.
To China we are the goose that lays golden eggs.
Why are you afraid of China?

**Rune** · 08-20-2019, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by dukkha

like what? serious negotiations caused by tariffs and time pressure to do so? yes indeed

No idiot child, the tariffs are not hurting China, they
are hurting Americans, something you don't understand.

**dukkha** · 08-20-2019, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Rune

No idiot child, the tariffs are not hurting China, they
are hurting Americans, something you don't understand.

they hurt China and the US -but not equally and not across all sectors.
China is pumping in cash reserves, but even there the economy is contracting and losing manufacturing and investment.

Here not so much except farming where Trump has funneled money from tariffs to farmers.
But many of the 10% tariffs are just absorbed by business.

When it gets to 25% -real pain starts

**dukkha** · 08-20-2019, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by Howard the Duck

Nixon had the advantage that the two countries were belligerents toward one another when he came into office, and that China was in a weak position compared with today.

yes but Russia is still much weaker in the economy and MUST get closer to China SINCE we applied economic sanctions

Our Russian sanctions are damaging our own foreign alignments -they need to start coming off

**Rune** · 08-20-2019, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by dukkha

yes but Russia is still much weaker in the economy and MUST get closer to China SINCE we applied economic sanctions

Our Russian sanctions are damaging our own foreign alignments -they need to start coming off

Stay on topic.

**Rune** · 08-20-2019, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by dukkha

they hurt China and the US -but not equally and not across all sectors.
China is pumping in cash reserves, but even there the economy is contracting and losing manufacturing and investment.

Here not so much except farming where Trump has funneled money from tariffs to farmers.
But many of the 10% tariffs are just absorbed by business.

When it gets to 25% -real pain starts

Unsubstantiated opinion

**LV426** · 08-20-2019, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by dukkha

like what? serious negotiations caused by tariffs and time pressure to do so? yes indeed

The tariffs were unnecessary and are costing American workers $1,000 while killing jobs.

But you get to own this policy now and forever! So congrats! Anytime anyone thinks of shitty economic policy, they can think of you and your 1000 IDs.

**LV426** · 08-20-2019, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by dukkha

yes but Russia is still much weaker in the economy and MUST get closer to China SINCE we applied economic sanctions

You all promised growth of at least 3%, and you failed there.

You all promised wage increases of $4,000-$9,000, and you failed there.

You all promised the stock market would reach new heights, but it's grown by less than 2,000 points in 18 months, so you failed there.

You all promised you'd create jobs, but 2018 saw the fewest jobs created since 2011, so you failed there.

You all promised the deficit would be reduced, but instead it's grown by 17% this year alone, so you failed there.

Why are you still posting? Nothing you say is accurate.