All things being equal, and we don't take Kilpatrick's argument favoring authoritarianism over totalitarianism, then, we can only judge Iran and KSA in terms of self-interest. In which case, KSA is clearly the "better."
Too bad you know shit about political science, as you can't define any of these terms, and were dumb enough to rank Iran as better than KSA.
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
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"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
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"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
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"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
-(Ib1yysguy)
"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
-(apple0154 )
"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
-(Desh)
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Hello Celticguy,
Sounds to me like we are using very different definitions for 'society.'
Social interactions are individuals having regular contact with one another for mutual benefit.
Commerce is an example of a social interaction.
People get most of their needs met from other people in society.
That is why it is called social interdependence.
And a very good reason why we need to think of the collective in our actions.
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"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.
Hello Celticguy,
Oh, I get it. You think it's not a social interaction unless it's something like a party?
"a part of the community that sets itself apart as a leisure class and that regards itself as the arbiter of fashion and manners"
Here's the definition of 'Society' I was thinking of when I penned the OP:
"an enduring and cooperating social group whose members have developed organized patterns of relationships through interaction with one another"
"an interdependent system of organisms or biological units"
You are using a selective definition for 'society' and I am using a broader definition, that's all.
And what does it matter?
I recognize that humans are socially interdependent, have their needs met by being part of the collective of humans; you have this perverse idea that we are all loners and only interact when it suits us, but that is not any form of meeting anyone's needs.
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The left frequently redefines language to support notions that are otherwise insupportable.
"Racist" is a good example.
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.
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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/society
No, you're not.
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.
"the body of human beings generally, associated or viewed as members of a community: the evolution of human society."
That's it, right there. The world is a large community of humans. Generally, all the humans on Earth are part of human society.
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