Hello TOP,
Oh, I'm sorry. I guess I did rub it in. I didn't have to do that.
I already had the goods to shut down your argument.
I didn't search for the numbers in the beginning because, while I am prone to sometimes very time-consuming research to support a post, I am not extraordinarily motivated to perform time-consuming searches on demand.
But it's good to meet challenges, sometimes. For whatever it was worth. Those numbers didn't change my position at all. Did they yours?
What does it matter if it was tens, hundreds or thousands, anyway? What the Shell plant did is wrong, quasi-legal, and if they are not held to task for it, they are thinking they got away with something because they found a loophole. Their objective is not to obey the law of the land, but to find a way around it.
This is unAmerican. Nobody should have their pay withheld for not being subjected to a political speech. That's not freedom. That's forced propaganda. Did you read that memo?
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Hello Althea,
No, that's not more accurate, it's just the biased way you want to rephrase it.
These workers get paid for 56 hours a week. They have to do what they are told for those 56 hours to get their pay. They were told to stop normal work and attend this Trump Rally, and if they didn't like it, they didn't have to go, BUT if that was their choice they would be shorted a half day of overtime pay.
They were told by their employer to go to a partisan political rally and threatened with loss of a big part of their normal paycheck if they exercised their freedom not to go. And they were forbidden against speaking freely during the event.
This is wrong.
This is so against freedom.
If these 5000 workers are normally causing the plant to be run, they must have had to shut down or severely restrict operations during this time.
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I still don't have a "count".... ...and no proof that if someone chose not to attend, they got docked...
This isn't the first time Shell did this...but the first time we've heard about it....so...I need more specifics before I make a final judgment...
I appreciate your opinion, though...and the "apology" I'll do the rest of the research....TY again...
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I would have quit immediately and gone to see a labor lawyer, fuck overtime pay
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