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    It was 1.5 pay, too:

    "Smith told Business Insider that on-site workers have a 56-hour workweek, which provides for 16 hours of overtime. As such, workers who didn't attend Trump's speech and took the PTO would not be eligible to receive that overtime"

    "An anonymous union leader told the Post-Gazette that one day of work could amount to around $700 in pay, benefits, and a per diem payment for out-of-town workers."

    Well NO WONDER the crowd was that big!

    And so must have been the expense for the corporation to pay workers so much to do nothing productive. And they get to write this political expenditure off as a pre-tax expense? Looks to me like they probably violated tax law. I don't know. It doesn't look right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Did you hear his rambling, scary and repetitive speech at his rally? Trump is losing whatever he had left and you ignore it as Trumplestilskins do.
    Nope. Didn't watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    It was 1.5 pay, too:

    "Smith told Business Insider that on-site workers have a 56-hour workweek, which provides for 16 hours of overtime. As such, workers who didn't attend Trump's speech and took the PTO would not be eligible to receive that overtime"

    "An anonymous union leader told the Post-Gazette that one day of work could amount to around $700 in pay, benefits, and a per diem payment for out-of-town workers."

    Well NO WONDER the crowd was that big!

    And so must have been the expense for the corporation to pay workers so much to do nothing productive. And they get to write this political expenditure off as a pre-tax expense? Looks to me like they probably violated tax law. I don't know. It doesn't look right.

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    They've done this in the past for celebrities, so, they've been possibly violating tax laws in the past-oh dear....That being said....I can't find an article that says how many Shell empoyees attended this event. You say "no wonder the crowd was so big"...so I'm assuming you did find numbers? Please share

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    Hello TOP,

    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    They've done this in the past for celebrities, so, they've been possibly violating tax laws in the past-oh dear....That being said....I can't find an article that says how many Shell empoyees attended this event. You say "no wonder the crowd was so big"...so I'm assuming you did find numbers? Please share
    You're arguing that the crowd was small? That's surprising.

    If Trump was there as an 'educational speaker,' why did he go into campaign speech?

    That blows the whole claim from the corporation that this 'was treated as a training day.'

    "Shell spokesperson Curtis Smith told Business Insider that "Tuesday was treated as a training (work) day with a guest speaker who happened to be the President."

    That's pretty suspicious wording.

    If it was a training day it was a training day.

    This language: 'treated as?'

    That's code.

    Everybody knows this is not a training speech.

    If it was a training speaker, then that's what it is.

    'Treated as' is BS.

    That's just so they can have a forced political rally and do it on pre-tax money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello TOP,



    You're arguing that the crowd was small? That's surprising.

    If Trump was there as an 'educational speaker,' why did he go into campaign speech?

    That blows the whole claim from the corporation that this 'was treated as a training day.'

    "Shell spokesperson Curtis Smith told Business Insider that "Tuesday was treated as a training (work) day with a guest speaker who happened to be the President."

    That's pretty suspicious wording.

    If it was a training day it was a training day.

    This language: 'treated as?'

    That's code.

    Everybody knows this is not a training speech.

    If it was a training speaker, then that's what it is.

    'Treated as' is BS.

    That's just so they can have a forced political rally and do it on pre-tax money.
    The celebs weren't there to "train or educate" either...I asked if you knew numbers. If you don't just say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello TOP,



    You're arguing that the crowd was small? That's surprising.

    If Trump was there as an 'educational speaker,' why did he go into campaign speech?

    That blows the whole claim from the corporation that this 'was treated as a training day.'

    "Shell spokesperson Curtis Smith told Business Insider that "Tuesday was treated as a training (work) day with a guest speaker who happened to be the President."

    That's pretty suspicious wording.

    If it was a training day it was a training day.

    This language: 'treated as?'

    That's code.

    Everybody knows this is not a training speech.

    If it was a training speaker, then that's what it is.

    'Treated as' is BS.

    That's just so they can have a forced political rally and do it on pre-tax money.
    No numbers, Snowflake?

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    Hello TOP,

    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    The celebs weren't there to "train or educate" either...I asked if you knew numbers. If you don't just say so
    No problem. The answer lies in this wonderful song:

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    [QUOTE=PoliTalker;3211160]Hello TOP,



    No problem. So you've got nothing Thanks
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    Hello TOP,,

    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    No problem. So you've got nothing Thanks
    Oh, I've got plenty.

    Here's the memo sent to the Shell workers:

    The Actual Memo
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello TOP,,



    Oh, I've got plenty.

    Here's the memo sent to the Shell workers:

    The Actual Memo
    You've got nothing....if you have no numbers....

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    Hello TOP,

    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    I can't find an article that says how many Shell empoyees attended this event.
    How diligently did you try? It didn't take much searching...

    "About 5,000 workers attended the speech, according to Newsweek magazine. "


    Trump’s speech at a Shell plant drew thousands of workers. They were paid overtime to be there.


    Are you ready to congratulate me for being able to do what you couldn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Shell Workers Had To Attend Trump Speech To Be Paid, Were Ordered Not To Protest: Report

    They were instructed: “No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance,” according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

    Workers at a massive new Shell plant in Pennsylvania had to attend a speech by President Donald Trump there earlier this week to be paid — and were ordered not to protest, reported the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

    Attendance was not mandatory for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell’s petrochemical plant north of Pittsburgh, but they had to forfeit pay for the day if they skipped, according to attendance and comportment information obtained by the newspaper.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/penns...b056fafd0c08db



    And signalless continues to lie by omission! Kind of forgot to say that it was overtime pay for attending not regular pay, that their coworkers would receive if they attended. Lying sack of shit.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...?noredirect=on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Eye View Post
    And signalless continues to lie by omission! Kind of forgot to say that it was overtime pay for attending not regular pay, that their coworkers would receive if they attended. Lying sack of shit.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...?noredirect=on
    Yes indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello TOP,



    How diligently did you try? It didn't take much searching...

    "About 5,000 workers attended the speech, according to Newsweek magazine. "


    Trump’s speech at a Shell plant drew thousands of workers. They were paid overtime to be there.


    Are you ready to congratulate me for being able to do what you couldn't?
    No, but you did give me an "answer" to my question, which I will check out. Why didn't you just do that in the beginning? I thought we were "good"..you needn't get snippy with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    So how many went?
    Only as many as were forced to show up, and keep their mouths shut if they disagreed with his myriad lies.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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