Cancel 2020.2 (08-16-2019)
This time he is not getting free coverage like CNN and MSNBC gave him in 2016. This is not news. This is Trump giving the same silly childish speeches he gave back then. In 2016 they were new and not taken seriously. Now we know what an ill person he is . Rude and crude are not the characteristics a president should be proud of.
Cancel 2020.2 (08-16-2019)
Trumpet (08-17-2019)
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
Sailor (08-16-2019)
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Trumpet (08-17-2019)
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
Hello ThatOwlWoman,
Noted, but we would be wise to keep in mind that this forum can in no way be thought of as proportionally representative of the electorate. This place just gives us a glimpse into the minds of some who are motivated enough and have the time to come here and talk about how they feel. It would be logical to infer that political forum posters are among the most opinionated voters; because they are so concerned about it they are driven to talk about it constantly. Most voters just don't have the time nor desire to participate here.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Trumpet (08-17-2019)
I think there are some here that are more informed than the public & a large group that are no more informed than if they were living in the wilderness..
Then there's those that are here just to fight, troll, bullshit etc etc etc.. They don't learn anything or contribute anything, kinda sad..
"There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."
I'm always interested in talking with the more-informed-than-the-public ppl from both sides. Sometimes I actually learn more from links and comments posted than I do from my Internet news reading.
Yeah, those toxic types that are best avoided and/or put on one's ignore list. They are ppl with sad bad lives and flinging snot at anonymous strangers on a politics forum somehow soothes their pain. Sad.Then there's those that are here just to fight, troll, bullshit etc etc etc.. They don't learn anything or contribute anything, kinda sad..
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Very well said!!!!
Yes, I have learned a lot from ppl I don't necessarily agree w/..
Two weeks ago one of my friends was posting his usual anti-Dem spew & I check it, if it is a lie or debunked I ban that source he used & there are lots, but then he has some gems (those russian bots give him)...lol It was some youtubes from fienstein, hillary Obama & them talking about stopping illegals, preventing them from crossing etc..... They were pretty adamant although doesn't seem like much got done...
"There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."
Hi Bill,
So true. I do agree. We see a lot more frustration and venting than listening and learning.
I originally began chatting politics online because I was driving my work buddies crazy wanting to talk about politics. They finally had to put their foot down and ask me to stop. I was incredulous. To me it was so important that the nation be actively engaged in the political process, and many of our problems arise specifically because people simply do not know what's going on, and by not talking about it, the problem was perpetuated. Here I was trying to raise the awareness level and they were just annoyed with me for it. So I obliged them and found online chat rooms to scratch my itch.
My SO didn't understand my growing passion for the political process. Thought I was 'wasting my time.' Naturally, I saw it differently. But I was challenged with the question: 'What are you accomplishing? You're never going to convince any of those other people that you are right and they are wrong. So just what are you accomplishing?"
I had to think about my answer. To me, it seemed like I was doing the right thing, being engaged in the process, like the Constitution depends on. I realized I was better informed for it. That's what is being accomplished. And along the way, I have also matured. I transformed from the very confrontational poster I began as to the easy-going carefully respectful poster I now am. I am now able to talk politics with anybody of any view and not get angry. That's huge. Most people can't really do that. They get so animated when politics comes up. I think that's because there is this pox on talking about politics or religion. Like you're not supposed to at social gatherings. That little social rule really hurts our nation. The reason people get angry is because they are frustrated and feel powerless. They want to quickly place blame and simplify.
Through online chat I have learned to calmly listen to others in real life as they say things that once would have made me angry. I let them finish and then I challenge their views with crucial points, going right to the heart of the matter, speaking directly to the subject. If I get the chance. A lot of people these days are so ADD they can't speak to one issue but instead go rambling from issue to issue, or they want to interrupt whomever is speaking so they can blurt what's on their mind about what was just said, without hearing the rest, perhaps fearful that if they listen more they will forget what they wanted to say to that one point.
That short attention span thing makes people embarrassed, so that could account for their reluctance to engage in a deep political conversation. And it's so easy to destroy a conversation with anger and insults that many simply can't resist, can't help themselves, using that technique as an easy way out of a conversation they feel they might be over their heads in. And we see that happening here as well. You back somebody into a corner on an issue and they have no good recourse so they destroy the conversation with insults just to get out of it.
After I realized all of this I had to ask myself what was left for me with online chatting. That's when I realized that what I get is invaluable insight. I get two big things: I get informed, and I learn why other people believe the things they do. I get informed by forcing myself to do research and look things up that I'm commenting on. This frequently leads to modifying my view. I learn what motivates other views by challenging the things others say. That's where I learn if they have good logic, or if they are simply motivated by emotion. All the people on my Ignore List are motivated by emotion. They fear the unknown, and reject it. And they get angry if you challenge them on their view. That's when they turn on you. So I have no problem putting them on Ignore because I already learned why they hold their views. I have no more use in talking to them.
When I find so many of opposing views who have no good logic for their beliefs it serves to reaffirm my own convictions about what I believe. It is reassuring to me to have a good grasp of what's going on in the world, and to know that I am joined by many who do share my views. And for the ones who don't, but are able to respectfully discuss the issues, I secretly hope that they (and the ignored ones who read my posts) will think about my words after the fact and, even if they never admit it to me, see some logic in my view, and realize they were unable to present anything which soundly disputed it, so maybe I was really onto something. I'll never know, but it doesn't really matter. I got what I came for and I also got to state my position for others to see. And that scratches the itch.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Trumpet (08-17-2019)
Will you be supporting a liar who claims that he lost NH in 2016 because of "buses full of out-of-state voters who illegally cast ballots" , Mr. Earl?
And then to compound the lie he also said “Thousands and thousands of people coming in from locations unknown. But I knew where the location was.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...id=mailsignout
“What greater gift than the love of a cat.”
― Charles Dickens
What are you all going to do when he's reelected?
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