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Thread: The Death of Jesus—Historical Certainties

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The chronologically earliest canonical Gospel (Mark) - and thus the closest in time to the actual events - is fairly neutral on the Jewish people, and does not act sympathetic to Pontius Pilate or attempt to make him look like a hero-of-sorts trying his best to spare Jesus.
    Mark blames the Jews. Mark is sympathetic to Pilate. Cypress, why do you want to be such an embarrassing liar, fcktard? Mark tells of Pilate encouraging Jesus to give a defense. Mark tells of Pilate exploiting a Jewish holiday to try to get Jesus released (vs. a murderer). Mark tells of Pilate pressing the Jews and their unsupported charge. Only Mark's brevity reveals why he Mark doesn't go into the all the other ways Pilate tried to save the Jews.

    It is when you get into the later Gospels that there is an attempt by the early Christian writers to paint the Jewish people in the worst light possible.
    You may be a fcking liar, but you do know the Bible better any Zionist fcktard who thinks s/he is a Christian. Yes, three Gospels do paint the JEWish PEOPLE in the WORST possible light, because they are the worst possible people, the Devil's own spawn. And, Mark isn't far behind.

    I do not think one can reasonably claim that the bible is anti-Semitic, because the very term anti-Semitism is 19th century lexicon that did not exist in antiquity.
    The idiotic term "anti-Semitism" doesn't need to have existed in the past for the term to be applied to something in the past. You know that, cowardly fcktard.
    Ape lives matter. Stop putting them in zoos. Boycott businesses that don't hire apes.

    Then answered all the Jews, and said, Jesus' blood be on us, and on our children. So be it.
    Jews want to turn America into an atheistic, amoral, socialist farmyard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    “Blame the God damned Jews for the death of Jesus!” – recently posted by a Trump-loving jpp.com conservative poster



    Cliff notes: It is a historical fact that Jesus was killed by the Romans for political treason against Rome. The Roman governor Pontius Pilate would not have cared one whit if the Jewish authorities disagreed with Jesus on matters of Jewish tradition and religious practice. The bottom line: Jewish people are not accountable for the execution of Jesus, in spite of the claims of some Trump supporters.
    First off Crypuss God's last name isn't Damn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Eye View Post
    First off Crypuss God's last name isn't Damn!
    Cypress was quoting Bobb!You took it completely out of context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Margot Frank View Post
    Cypress was quoting Bobb!You took it completely out of context.
    Jesus told parables of God damning the Jews to Hell, and then with Jesus in the lead, the Roman armies crushed the Jews in 70 AD. "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" so said the thieving, raping negro MLK Jr. who stole it from the white man Theodore Parker.

    So, Miss Frank, do you still think the current President of Israel has Joseph and Mary, dead 2000 years, as dad and mom? At least Cypress knows he's a liar. You're an idiot who believes the antichristian lies.
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    Then answered all the Jews, and said, Jesus' blood be on us, and on our children. So be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    Jesus told parables of God damning the Jews to Hell, and then with Jesus in the lead, the Roman armies crushed the Jews in 70 AD. "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" so said the thieving, raping negro MLK Jr. who stole it from the white man Theodore Parker.

    So, Miss Frank, do you still think the current President of Israel has Joseph and Mary, dead 2000 years, as dad and mom? At least Cypress knows he's a liar. You're an idiot who believes the antichristian lies.
    ^^ The forum most noted anti-Semite.

    "Blame the God damned Jews for Jesus' death!!!"

    ^^^ the opinion of obscure message board poster Blob, jpp.com
    "What is most intriguing (and enlightening) is that over time in the Christian tradition – both inside the New Testament and outside of it – Pilate becomes more and more innocent in the death of Jesus with the passing of time. You can see this clearly simply by lining up the Gospels chronologically and seeing how they portray Pilate at the trial of Jesus.

    Our earliest Gospel is Mark (15:1-15). There Pilate is somewhat reluctant to do what the Jewish leaders ask him to do – crucify Jesus – and he seems a bit bewildered. After a very brief trial Pilate, does what they ask. Here Pilate is simply complying with the Jews’ wishes; he puts up some resistance, but not a whole lot"

    ^^^ Dr. Bart Erhman, PhD. New Testament Scholar and Professor of Religious History, University of North Carolina
    The chronologically later Gospels have the "entire crowd" of Jews begging to take the blame and have the blood of Jesus blamed on their Children.

    By the time one gets the the chronologically last Gospel, the Jews are actually being called children of the Devil.


    It is unequivocal that over the passage of time, the early Christian authors tried to place more and more blame on the Jews, and make the Romans look more and more innocent with respect to the execution of Jesus of Nazareth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The chronologically later Gospels have the "entire crowd" of Jews begging to take the blame and have the blood of Jesus blamed on their Children.
    Yep, the Jews still want to be blamed to this day! That is why they don't apologize for what "some" Jews did to Jesus. That's why the Jews revere the Talmud which boasts of the Jews killing Jesus.

    By the time one gets the the chronologically last Gospel, the Jews are actually being called children of the Devil.
    A superfluous biblical teaching if there ever was one.
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    Then answered all the Jews, and said, Jesus' blood be on us, and on our children. So be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    Yep, the Jews still want to be blamed to this day! That is why they don't apologize for what "some" Jews did to Jesus. That's why the Jews revere the Talmud which boasts of the Jews killing Jesus.



    A superfluous biblical teaching if there ever was one.
    So you're pro-holocaust?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    Yep, the Jews still want to be blamed to this day! That is why they don't apologize for what "some" Jews did to Jesus. That's why the Jews revere the Talmud which boasts of the Jews killing Jesus.

    "Blame the God damned Jews for the death of Jesus!" (Blobb's opinion of the Jewish role in Jesus execution)

    A superfluous biblical teaching if there ever was one.
    You are a good representative for conservatism and rightwing chrisitans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You are a good representative for conservatism and rightwing chrisitans.
    Bobb's hero!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Margot Frank View Post
    So you're pro-holocaust?
    You're pro-holocaust. It would offend you if someone said even one Jew less than six million were baked in German ovens. God is pro-holocaust and has an everlasting holocaust waiting for every Jew when they die. And, you being pro-holocaust, are helping to shove Jews into Hell, by your antichrist lies (still lies, even if you believe what you say).
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    Then answered all the Jews, and said, Jesus' blood be on us, and on our children. So be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    You're pro-holocaust. It would offend you if someone said even one Jew less than six million were baked in German ovens. God is pro-holocaust and has an everlasting holocaust waiting for every Jew when they die. And, you being pro-holocaust, are helping to shove Jews into Hell, by your antichrist lies (still lies, even if you believe what you say).
    You might be the dumbest motherfucker
    I ever ran across here.
    Tie Your 'roo down Mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Margot Frank View Post
    You might be the dumbest motherfucker
    I ever ran across here.
    That from you, who claims that the current president of Israel is the child of Mary and Joseph who died 2000 years ago. And, I'm not a fan of you shoving Jews into the fires of Hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    That from you, who claims that the current president of Israel is the child of Mary and Joseph who died 2000 years ago. And, I'm not a fan of you shoving Jews into the fires of Hell.
    I never made that claim.But it's obvious,you think Jews have to be descendents of Mary and Joseph.
    Tie Your 'roo down Mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Margot Frank View Post
    I never made that claim.But it's obvious,you think Jews have to be descendents of Mary and Joseph.
    Reminder, I asked what makes the current president of Israel a Jew and you, in your illiterate fashion, indicated that having Joseph and Mary, dead 2000 years, as dad and mom makes him a Jew. If that's not what makes him a Jew, then what makes him and Jesus jews, you fcking moron? Why haven't you answered this question long time ago? Because you're a fcking moron and hater of Jesus!
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    Then answered all the Jews, and said, Jesus' blood be on us, and on our children. So be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobb View Post
    Reminder, I asked what makes the current president of Israel a Jew and you, in your illiterate fashion, indicated that having Joseph and Mary, dead 2000 years, as dad and mom makes him a Jew. If that's not what makes him a Jew, then what makes him and Jesus jews, you fcking moron? Why haven't you answered this question long time ago? Because you're a fcking moron and hater of Jesus!
    Jews are descendents of Jacobs son Judah.
    Tie Your 'roo down Mate

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