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    Werewolf U.S. Farmers Stung by Tariffs Now Face a $3.5 Billion Corn Loss

    American farmers already stung by President Donald Trump’s trade wars now face billions of dollars in potential losses as controversial data from the U.S. government snuffs out a rally in corn.


    The Agriculture Department on Monday said farmers planted a bigger corn area than analysts estimated and pegged crop yields that also exceeded expectations, sparking the biggest rout in futures since 2013. That was a blow to growers who were holding back supplies, hoping a rally that started in May due to delayed sowing would extend through the fall.

    The decline represents a potential loss of almost $3.5 billion for U.S. farmers, according to the American Farm Bureau, and is another setback for them after prices fell following the USDA’s previous acreage report, which was widely criticized for containing outdated data.


    The latest data is compounding the pain from the trade war between Washington and Beijing, which has significantly reduced purchases from the world’s largest soybean buyer. Policy uncertainty has also hit the farm economy as a new U.S. deal with Mexico and Canada is yet to be passed. What’s more, the government is allowing 31 oil refineries to go without blending ethanol into fossil fuels, hurting demand for corn.

    “This is a huge disappointment for farmers that have already been struggling with a lot of uncertainty with this corn crop, trade wars and what have you,” said Tanner Ehmke, manager of the research team at CoBank, a $138 billion lender to the agriculture industry. “A lot of people were banking on the opportunity to sell at much higher prices. This report now really brings that into question.”

    Crashing corn prices are an additional stress for growers facing huge farm debt, which the USDA estimates will rise 3.9% this year to $427 billion. Last year, farm debt-to-income was at the highest level since 1984.
    Farm Income

    While farm income remained weak in the second quarter in the tenth district, the pace of declines had slowed partly as the slowest corn plantings on record boosted prices, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City.

    The USDA pegged planted corn acres at 2.6% higher than expected while yields came in 2.8% above. Growers who were already disappointed by the price declines after the last acreage report had hoped the agency’s rare re-survey of plantings would deliver a number that better reflects one of the wettest planting seasons on record. Soybean acres were below forecasts, though yields were higher.

    “I still don’t think anyone has a good, firm handle on acreage yields, and demand, especially not USDA,” said Charles Williams, who farms 13,000 acres with his father and cousin in Marion, Arkansas. “There’s a lot of calendar left to go on this crop, and I don’t know if the market will know what we have until we throw it in a pile, so to speak, at harvest.”
    Data Discrepancy

    Some growers also questioned the report due to the discrepancy between the figures published by the USDA’s National Agricultural Statistics Service, or NASS, and those by the Farm Service Agency, or FSA.

    “We need to disregard this report, we won’t know actual acreage until this winter, I guess,” said Monte Peterson, a farmer in Valley City, North Dakota. “Makes me wonder, if our system isn’t a little broken. Harvested acreage will be a surprise at some point.”

    To be sure, some market veterans agree with the USDA acreage forecast. Scott Irwin, a University of Illinois agricultural economist, said President Trump’s trade aid plan may have encouraged farmers to sow more corn since the agency had initially announced payouts would be tied to acreage planted.

    Dan Basse, president of AgResource, said the USDA report showed growers took advantage of the rally earlier this year and planted more than the market expected during a window in the first 10 days of June.
    Farmer Stress

    Still, lower prices could add to grower stress at a time Farm Aid’s hotline has seen increasingly numbers reaching out on everything from financial counseling to crisis assistance. Angie Setzer, vice president of grain at Charlotte, Michigan-based Citizens Elevator, called on farmers in her Twitter account to reach out to her if they needed anything or “even just a place to vent.”

    Concerns about a further squeeze to farmers’ financial health sent shares of tractor makers tumbling Monday, with AGCO Corp. down by the most in over a year and Deere & Co. declining by as much as 5.2%.

    Lower prices could also push Trump to announce further aid to farmers as he seeks re-election next year. The president has already announced $28 billion worth of financial help for growers facing lower exports due to trade wars.

    “The financial stress is there and this isn’t going to help farmers that are struggling,” CoBank’s Ehmke said, referring to corn’s decline. “Is this going to be the nail in the coffin for the farm economy? I doubt it. Because we keep throwing the kitchen sink at the farm economy and it just keeps hanging in there.”
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    American farmers already stung by President Donald Trump’s trade wars now face billions of dollars in potential losses as controversial data from the U.S. government snuffs out a rally in corn.
    THE RUSSIANS!!! THE RUSSIANS!!!

    NO; IT'S OBSTRUCTION!!!!IT'S OBSTRUCTION!!!!

    NO; IT'S WHITE CHRISTIANS!!!!WHITE CHRISTIANS!!!!

    NO; TRUMP DOESN'T CARE ABOUT FARMERS!!!!TRUMP DOESN'T CARE ABOUT FARMERS!!!!

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    According to Trump (on ABC News) he's winning with China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    According to Trump (on ABC News) he's winning with China.
    How is China winning? Why do leftist assholes want China to win?
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    I don't know if this is applicable, but someone once said, no pain no gain....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Yurt View Post
    I don't know if this is applicable, but someone once said, no pain no gain....
    It's no brain no pain or ignorance is bliss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    It's no brain no pain or ignorance is bliss
    Who better than you to know this right snowflake?
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Yurt View Post
    I don't know if this is applicable, but someone once said, no pain no gain....
    Why should farmers suffer for Trump’s stupidity and lack of knowledge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Why should farmers suffer for Trump’s stupidity and lack of knowledge?
    If they voted for him, they have it coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Why should farmers suffer for Trump’s stupidity and lack of knowledge?
    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    If they voted for him, they have it coming.
    It was like investing in the stock market without doing any research. They took trump at his word, without bothering to study his history as a failure in business. Every business.

    I recently questioned how much damage trump could do before he's ousted in '21. Clearly, it's quite a bit. If he hadn't alienated every trade partner we have, perhaps somebody would step up and take some of our excess corn.

    You have to love the cutback in ethanol, and subsequent corn glut.

    Like everything trump has ever touched.

    Where's daddy Drumpf when we need him?
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    It was like investing in the stock market without doing any research. They took trump at his word, without bothering to study his history as a failure in business. Every business.

    I recently questioned how much damage trump could do before he's ousted in '21. Clearly, it's quite a bit. If he hadn't alienated every trade partner we have, perhaps somebody would step up and take some of our excess corn.

    You have to love the cutback in ethanol, and subsequent corn glut.

    Like everything trump has ever touched.

    Where's daddy Drumpf when we need him?
    Like you know anything about farming.
    Ethanol in gasoline sucks. It gels, eats gaskets and doesn't burn as well.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    It was like investing in the stock market without doing any research. They took trump at his word, without bothering to study his history as a failure in business. Every business.

    I recently questioned how much damage trump could do before he's ousted in '21. Clearly, it's quite a bit. If he hadn't alienated every trade partner we have, perhaps somebody would step up and take some of our excess corn.

    You have to love the cutback in ethanol, and subsequent corn glut.

    Like everything trump has ever touched.

    Where's daddy Drumpf when we need him?
    Very true. They had all the information necessary to make a better choice. Trump's filthy nefarious history was there for all to see with just a bit of Googling. Yes...Trump actually has the Midas touch in reverse. I always found this funny...

    Donald Trump Would Be Richer If He’d Have Invested in Index Funds
    https://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donal...p-index-funds/
    They bought a bill of goods from a grifter who tanked business after business.

    Trump’s unpredictability on all of these issues is attributable to the fact that he really doesn’t have any stable positions; he’s a con artist, he says what he needs to say to get you sign on the dotted line to sell you the used car. That’s who Donald Trump is.
    https://theintercept.com/2016/11/12/...mp-presidency/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    If they voted for him, they have it coming.
    True, but I don’t want our country to suffer because of the stupidity of a 1/3 of the population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    LAME; we know you suffer severe TDS and serious case of stupid. You don't have to prove it every damned day.
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