Trump Fail: Shrinking Government Another Lie. Govt Now Bigger Than Trump Got It.

[PoliTalker]

Hello Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez,

In which departments and branches of government did this growth occur? I remember him calling for more border patrol and judges and such when the border crisis got totally out of hand, other than that, I wouldn't see any need for the growth. On the other hand, I remember clinton's declaration that the era of big government was over, and he actually took steps to reduce the number of federal employees! Know how he did it? The great fat boy purge of the military, that's how! After the last weigh-in of my 25 year career, I was 4 pounds overweight. I was called into my CO's office where I was solemnly told that I had 4 months to lose the 4 pounds or I would be processed for discharge. I retired shortly after that, but I watched a metric shit ton of corporate knowledge flushed down the shitter because a senior NCO was a few pounds overweight. But heaven forbid some bureaucratic flunky in the department of redundancy department be sent packing! This is also why we don't see a lot of campaign "promises" anymore, because man plans and God laughs.

The statistic doesn't indicate which jobs were added. We do know a lot of key positions remain unfilled.

Hopefully, the retirement is an enjoyable one. It did sound like a personal choice. It's good to have options.

[StoneByStone]

For a number of years Hong Kong's economy was considered one of the most capitalistic and laissez-faire in the world. How are you considering that liberal by our definitions unless you are referring to it as classically liberal.

Because, as I pointed out before, liberal policies don't grow the size of government. Conservative policies do. Notice that every time America has a republican president, the government size and the debt increases.
Hong Kong is socially liberal and when they create regulation, it's to help the working-class, not the rich. They're liberal.

[SmarterthanYou]

big shocker, republicans like their big government also. you can bank that in the next year, there will be even more gov employees, most of them wearing badges and guns.

[cawacko]

Because, as I pointed out before, liberal policies don't grow the size of government. Conservative policies do. Notice that every time America has a republican president, the government size and the debt increases.
Hong Kong is socially liberal and when they create regulation, it's to help the working-class, not the rich. They're liberal.

Your post makes no sense. Additional regulations don't grow the size of government?

[PoliTalker]

Hello cawacko,

Your post makes no sense. Additional regulations don't grow the size of government?

Arguing theory is one thing. But it is all academic when compared to quantifiable results. Why don't you challenge StoneByStone to back up what he says?

[StoneByStone]

Your post makes no sense. Additional regulations don't grow the size of government?

"Small government" Libertarianism always leads to the rich getting richer, which then leads to the rich bribing government officials to implement the regulations they want in order to keep small businesses down and keep people poor so they have cheap labor. On the other hand, implementing some regulations to help the working-class and spread out the wealth keeps the 1% from getting too rich and powerful.

Basically, we have two choices. We can have some regulation to help the working-class, or we can have tons of regulation to help the rich. That's why liberal Western welfare states have less government than traditionalist conservative countries.

[Truth Detector]

Trump took office with a federal workforce at 2,810,000 workers.

Now it is 2,820,000 workers.

Added another ten thousand workers as he cut revenue. No wonder the debt is going sky high.

Data From The BLS Indicates Federal Workforce Larger Than Ever (open link and click '5Y' for the 5 year graph)

All the nonsense about shrinking government, draining the swamp, all hogwash.

You can see on the graph that he tried in the beginning, but lost his determination. He didn't follow through on his claims. He dropped the ball.

And he is spending more, too.

And the debt and the deficit have also gone up, up, up.

Trump lied.

Republicans were only pretending to care about small government and less spending when Obama was in office. Now we see they don't really care about big debts as long as they get big tax cuts for the rich. And they don't care if it destroys the country.

It is clear conservatives care more about money than anything else, including being patriotic to their country. Many conservatives will tell you very quickly, if you raise taxes on the rich, they will leave. Can you imagine that? These people care so little about their country they would gladly leave for a few dollars. And they are already rich. Amazing. Now that we have determined their patriotism can be bought the only detail to work out is how much.

When did leftists ever care about how BIG Government is getting? 10,000 increase over two and a half years? You whine is petty trivial don't you think?

[Truth Detector]

Republicans always make government bigger. Notice how all the countries with small government are liberal.

LIE and LAME. Of course, you have some credible data to support that lie right?

[cawacko]

"Small government" Libertarianism always leads to the rich getting richer, which then leads to the rich bribing government officials to implement the regulations they want in order to keep small businesses down and keep people poor so they have cheap labor. On the other hand, implementing some regulations to help the working-class and spread out the wealth keeps the 1% from getting too rich and powerful.

Basically, we have two choices. We can have some regulation to help the working-class, or we can have tons of regulation to help the rich. That's why liberal Western welfare states have less government than traditionalist conservative countries.

[Mason Melchizedek]

what about Congress? Congress ( Dems) have demanded a 1 to 1 ratio of increased domestic spending for any military increases ( devistated by sequestor under Obama)

You do know Republican party control the Senate.

[Truth Detector]

No he is correct "earl," and in addition, Trump has strengthen the power of the Executive Branch, another tenet conservatives told us at one time was contrary to their core principles

LIE and LAME. How has Trump strengthened the power of the Executive Branch? Weren't leftist liars like you all for Executive Power when Obama was President? Oh, yes you were! You cheered when Obama in his SOTU told the Republican Congress he was prepared to legislate without them.

You lefties are beyond mere lying hypocrites on steroids. You're mental cases.

Obama says he's prepared to act without Congress in State of the Union address

[Truth Detector]

The Duchy of Grand Fenwick and Lower Slobvia

Absurdity; a sure sign of the last desperate refuge for liars, fools and ignorance; and those who have lost their arguments. Yay you!

[Truth Detector]

As it should be, but your point is irrelevant, Trump, even with an advancing economy has found a way to increase discretionary spending, another not only contradicts what was supposedly conservative principles but also makes little economic sense with indicators up

Really? Show us exactly where that spending has increased snowflake. I am amused when leftists who cheered Obama's massive spending spree and record deficits now are fiscal hawks.

STFU you dishonest hypocrite.

[SmarterthanYou]

Because, as I pointed out before, liberal policies don't grow the size of government. Conservative policies do.

this is a perfect example of liberals playing 'opposite speak'...................

[Truth Detector]

Another talk radio whopper, listening to the right you would think our military resembled Japan's, wasn't one of the 2012 election fabrications that no new naval ship had been built in decades, or some similar fiction? We have always, and still do, far outspend any other nation in the world

Another MSNBC rant. I am amused by your sudden concern over deficits and budget spending. When did this occur? January 20th, 2017? Moron.

Facts remain, Trump has increased Gov't spending, enlarged the size of the Federal Gov't, ran up bigger deficits, strengthened the Exective Branch, and added disproportionately to the debt even with an advancing economy, all which at one time conservatives told us contradicted their core principles

This from a lying hypocritical buffoon who loved all of Obama's massive record deficit spending. Still can't answer the question and instead deflect and flail.

In which departments and branches of government did this growth occur? Try to answer without all the lying, crying, flailing and deflecting. I am betting you can't.