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    Although it is unclear how that improves education.
    With innovation and expansion come jobs.
    Jobs require workers.
    Workers require skills.
    If you want to compete in that marketplace you will get yourself skilled.
    Or become a parasite.
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    Hello Celticguy,

    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Size = headcount
    Spend = $$$$$
    Trump took office with a federal workforce at 2,810,000 workers.

    Now it is 2,820,000 workers.

    Added Ten Thousand more.

    Here is a data source link and a new thread about it


    Federal spending in 2016 $3.832 Trillion.

    Federal spending in 2019 $4.403 Trillion.

    Debt in 2016 $19.839 Trillion.

    Debt in 2019 $22.507 Trillion.

    US Debt Clock
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    I didnt say it did not rise only that it didnt rise as before.
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    "Conservatives tend to be exclusive; while liberals are inclusive.

    Conservatives are selective. Liberals want a nation that works for everybody."

    America is the land of diversity.

    We have many many cultures. There is no singular 'American culture.'

    But if you look at the crowd in a Trump rally you are going to see a lot of white people.

    If you look at a Democratic Rally, you are going to see a wide variety of people which is far more reflective of our multi-faceted society. What you are going to see is much more representative of America.

    We owe our greatness to diversity.

    Would we have won WWII without the Code-Talkers?

    Good thing we had this capability within our vast diversity.

    Good thing we didn't let racists keep native Americans out of the military.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The Greatness Of A Country Is Not Derived From The Richest. It Is From The Combination Of All Her People Together.
    A country is derived from her LIBERTY & JUSTICE FOR ALL.

    This is a fundamental difference in conservative and liberal thinking.

    Conservatives tend to be exclusive; while liberals are inclusive.
    Who are the people that conservatives exclude & have you even a clue what true conservatism is? Allow me to help you out.

    A true conservative is a staunch supporter and advocate of and for the BILL OF RIGHTS & strongly promotes the “CONSERVATION” thereof!

    A true liberal is a devoted soul to the very “LIBERAL” principles enshrined in the BILL OF RIGHTS! Apparently you’re unaware that a true conservative & a true liberal are one in the same. The terms are synonymous.

    Today’s so-called liberals are socialist neo-communist BIG government authoritarians. Have you ever read the BILL OF RIGHTS?

    Today’s so-called conservatives are BIG authoritarian government social & military interventionist. Promoters of the American World Police Force, world military dominance & foreign political meddling.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    A country is derived from her LIBERTY & JUSTICE FOR ALL.



    Who are the people that conservatives exclude & have you even a clue what true conservatism is? Allow me to help you out.

    A true conservative is a staunch supporter and advocate of and for the BILL OF RIGHTS & strongly promotes the “CONSERVATION” thereof!

    A true liberal is a devoted soul to the very “LIBERAL” principles enshrined in the BILL OF RIGHTS! Apparently you’re unaware that a true conservative & a true liberal are one in the same. The terms are synonymous.

    Today’s so-called liberals are socialist neo-communist BIG government authoritarians. Have you ever read the BILL OF RIGHTS?

    Today’s so-called conservatives are BIG authoritarian government social & military interventionist. Promoters of the American World Police Force, world military dominance & foreign political meddling.
    I don't think anyone could put it any better than that.

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Conservatives are selective. Liberals want a nation that works for everybody.
    Modern conservatives are no more exclusive or any less inclusive than modern liberals. Both will happily incorporate anybody that subscribes to their ideology & piss on anybody that doesn’t subscribe to their ideology! A dose of truthful thinking to override your radical partisan-ism would do you a real service!
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Conservatives want people to be able to use all the benefits and advantages of society to create their own wealth, but they don't want to owe society any payment in return for that.
    The benefits & advantages of America’s constitutional society are FREEDOM & JUSTICE FOR ALL. Those advantages & benefits are priceless & their single cost is the nation’s willingness & abilities to promote, protect & preserve those sacred principles!
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Conservatives want to extract wealth from the economy, but they don't want to return any wealth TO the economy.
    The single way to “extract” any true wealth from “society,” is to violate society’s individual rights to Freedom & Justice For All. “Returning” wealth “TO” society is delivered by respecting, promoting & Guaranteeing every individual’s right of Freedom & Justice.

    A sound & free society & economy is built on the freedom of imagination, the freedom to build, the freedom to invent, the freedom to work, the freedom to enjoy one’s fruits of one’s labors, the freedom of religion, the freedom to be charitable & the principles enshrined in the Bill Of Rights. Those are the true wealth of the nation!
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    If the economy is like a garden that you nurture and work in return for the bounty, conservatives want to take produce from the garden, but they don't want to water it or tend it.
    Leftist believe that “the garden” is government. Leftist believe that all treasure/produce actually belongs to government. Leftist believe citizens should only be allowed to have what government believes they deserve to have. Leftist believe the garden should be shared evenly regardless of the efforts & contributions to build & tend the garden, plant & harvest the crops & thereby share the misery of disincentive, lack of profit & production, & force the masses to live in poverty & squalor, just like Venezuela.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Conservatives seem to have this belief that the garden just grows naturally, sort of like the Garden of Eden, and they should be free to endlessly pick the fruit with no concern for how it got there in the first place. When the fruit is gone, capitalism goes off in search of more gardens, leaving devastation and nothingness behind. Like Detroit.
    “CAPITALISM” BUILDS THE GARDENS! “SOCIALISM” IS THE INSECT INFESTATION THAT DESTROYS THE GARDEN!

    Capitalism has built every successful economy on planet earth. Socialism has produced nothing but shit holes!
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    They figure they worked for it - because they figured out how to extract wealth for themselves.
    I notice that you fail to describe your presentation of “wealth” or where it came or comes from or who the creators of said wealth are. Do the creators of your wealth “work” to create it? I’ll understand if you have no credible answers!

    Their misconception is that they think the busywork of extracting wealth is 'doing their fair share,' without regard for whether or not their 'work' makes any meaningful or sustainable contribution to society.
    Hey, maybe they actually created the “wealth” Maybe what they created made them wealthy, did you ever consider that? Maybe what they created was used by others to get wealthy? I’ll understand if you refuse to answer that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The liberal mindset views the greatness of a nation as what that nation does to make sure all the people in the nation have a minimal modicum of basic modern comforts.
    Where can we find that “GREAT” nation without any poor?

    It's not how rich the rich are. It is how well a nation cares for her most disadvantaged.
    WHO in any nation are the “disadvantaged?” Who in any nation that promotes & guarantees in writing every individual the right to life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness are the “disadvantaged?”

    Making sure EVERYONE is taken care of. THAT is what makes a nation great.
    The citizens & families of a great nation “TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES” & those without through no fault of their can & are taken care of by the family, & private charities. A GREAT nation is a privately charitable nation & a nation that respects & thrives by the “FAMILY.”

    Any two-bit despot country can be corrupt enough to have a select few live in luxury and power.
    A capitalist, constitutional, family oriented, nation can have many, many more living in luxury!

    A truly powerful and great country has EVERYONE living in comfort and with needs met.
    Again, where can we find such a country without the poor?

    If some who excel have more, that's fine. But it shouldn't come at the expense of those who have the least, going without basics.
    Please explain how “some who excel” comes at the “expense of those who have the least.” How does that happen?
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    Diversity = greatness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Diversity = greatness.
    In leftist Land the exception is, white folks that aren't leftist, leftist bully them, slander them & violently attack them.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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