Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 48

Thread: Beto repeats the left's debunked 'very fine people' Charlottesville lie

  1. #1 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2018
    Posts
    10,720
    Thanks
    1,623
    Thanked 4,770 Times in 3,312 Posts
    Groans
    10
    Groaned 166 Times in 157 Posts

    Default Beto repeats the left's debunked 'very fine people' Charlottesville lie

    Here is Beto blatantly lying again (i.e., being a Democrat) to perpetuate this fabricated "very fine people" myth that the left made up to justify deliberately falsely smearing President Trump as a racist: "Two years ago, neo-Nazis marched in Charlottesville—and killed a woman named Heather Heyer. This violence has metastasized from Pittsburgh to El Paso; and the violence will continue until we defeat this hatred and the man endorsing these “very fine people” from the Oval Office."

    Let's review Charlottesville:

    FACT: Trump made three statements over two days about three different groups of people (legitimate protesters opposed to the left's idiotic war on monuments, liberal extremists, and white power groups). It was perfectly clear from the beginning that he rightly blamed both extremist groups for the violence and praised the legitimate protesters. Even CNN admitted that at the time (before inventing the false narrative liberals now cling to and mindlessly parrot):

    "Trump said there were some "very bad people" on both sides, but that there was some who came out to protest the removal of Robert E. Lee's statue who were "fine people.""

    For the liberals who can't bring themselves to stop lying about this, here are the actual quotes...

    Trump: "As I said on -- remember, Saturday -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America. And then it went on from there. Now, here’s the thing -- Okay, good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. Now, are we going to take down his statue? "So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. As I said on -- remember, Saturday -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America."

    And what was he referring to that he said on that Saturday? Direct quote:

    “Racism is evil — and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

    So again, liberals have been caught manufacturing yet another outrageously false narrative to smear someone who got in the way of Democrat power, for doing literally nothing wrong. Again, liberals are maniacal bullies, fascists, and tyrants who do absolutely monstrous things to innocent people all the time, and this is just one of many appalling lies they've sold to the American people to destroy lives and retaliate against dissent.

  2. #2 | Top
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    73,384
    Thanks
    101,902
    Thanked 54,760 Times in 33,626 Posts
    Groans
    3,155
    Groaned 5,065 Times in 4,683 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Good for him, they should also keep repeating his claim that the Central Park Five are still guilty. They should run all his greatest hits in one ad, but that would run too long.

  3. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Phantasmal For This Post:

    Cypress (08-12-2019), Guno צְבִי (08-12-2019), Jade Dragon (08-12-2019), Joe Capitalist (08-12-2019), Judy Johnstone (08-12-2019), Trumpet (08-13-2019), ZappasGuitar (08-12-2019)

  4. #3 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    In my house
    Posts
    21,174
    Thanks
    3,418
    Thanked 7,931 Times in 5,908 Posts
    Groans
    9
    Groaned 444 Times in 424 Posts
    Blog Entries
    4

    Default

    Not everyone present was a skin head or antifa.
    To think that there were no people supporting not rewritting history in a college town in an historic area is pretty silly. If course there were some very fine people there.
    And absent antifa there would have been no violence.
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
    The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to Celticguy For This Post:

    Darth Omar (08-12-2019)

  6. #4 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    49,883
    Thanks
    14,463
    Thanked 32,101 Times in 21,165 Posts
    Groans
    6
    Groaned 1,307 Times in 1,235 Posts

    Default

    Why are Warren and Beto parroting the same debunked lie?
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

  7. #5 | Top
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    I might be movin to Montana
    Posts
    24,947
    Thanks
    7,072
    Thanked 10,611 Times in 7,328 Posts
    Groans
    68
    Groaned 1,966 Times in 1,782 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    Here is Beto blatantly lying again (i.e., being a Democrat) to perpetuate this fabricated "very fine people" myth that the left made up to justify deliberately falsely smearing President Trump as a racist: "Two years ago, neo-Nazis marched in Charlottesville—and killed a woman named Heather Heyer. This violence has metastasized from Pittsburgh to El Paso; and the violence will continue until we defeat this hatred and the man endorsing these “very fine people” from the Oval Office."

    Let's review Charlottesville:

    FACT: Trump made three statements over two days about three different groups of people (legitimate protesters opposed to the left's idiotic war on monuments, liberal extremists, and white power groups). It was perfectly clear from the beginning that he rightly blamed both extremist groups for the violence and praised the legitimate protesters. Even CNN admitted that at the time (before inventing the false narrative liberals now cling to and mindlessly parrot):

    "Trump said there were some "very bad people" on both sides, but that there was some who came out to protest the removal of Robert E. Lee's statue who were "fine people.""

    For the liberals who can't bring themselves to stop lying about this, here are the actual quotes...

    Trump: "As I said on -- remember, Saturday -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America. And then it went on from there. Now, here’s the thing -- Okay, good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. Now, are we going to take down his statue? "So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. As I said on -- remember, Saturday -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America."

    And what was he referring to that he said on that Saturday? Direct quote:

    “Racism is evil — and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

    So again, liberals have been caught manufacturing yet another outrageously false narrative to smear someone who got in the way of Democrat power, for doing literally nothing wrong. Again, liberals are maniacal bullies, fascists, and tyrants who do absolutely monstrous things to innocent people all the time, and this is just one of many appalling lies they've sold to the American people to destroy lives and retaliate against dissent.
    You left out a couple Trump quotes from the days after the riot:

    On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastructure permitting. Reporters shortly began asking questions about Trump’s initial response to violent protests in Charlottesville, Va. It was at this press conference that Trump said that "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

  8. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ZappasGuitar For This Post:

    Guno צְבִי (08-12-2019), Trumpet (08-13-2019)

  9. #6 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2018
    Posts
    10,720
    Thanks
    1,623
    Thanked 4,770 Times in 3,312 Posts
    Groans
    10
    Groaned 166 Times in 157 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    You left out a couple Trump quotes from the days after the riot:

    On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastructure permitting. Reporters shortly began asking questions about Trump’s initial response to violent protests in Charlottesville, Va. It was at this press conference that Trump said that "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."
    Referring to the protesters, not the extremists. That is beyond dispute at this point.

  10. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to artichoke For This Post:

    Bigdog (08-12-2019), dukkha (08-12-2019)

  11. #7 | Top
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    I might be movin to Montana
    Posts
    24,947
    Thanks
    7,072
    Thanked 10,611 Times in 7,328 Posts
    Groans
    68
    Groaned 1,966 Times in 1,782 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    No, I didn't. It's right there in plain English. You just failed to comprehend it. And he was referring to the protesters, not the extremists. That is beyond dispute at this point.

    Of course you did.

    The Trump quote I cited is NOWHERE in the body of your OP.

    YOU claimed it didn't exist in that same OP.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

  12. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ZappasGuitar For This Post:

    Guno צְבִי (08-12-2019), Trumpet (08-13-2019)

  13. #8 | Top
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    74,838
    Thanks
    15,266
    Thanked 14,432 Times in 12,044 Posts
    Groans
    18,546
    Groaned 1,699 Times in 1,647 Posts
    Blog Entries
    6

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Why are Warren and Beto parroting the same debunked lie?
    Because it's all they have and they're preaching to a congregation that want to believe them.
    SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.


  14. #9 | Top
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    74,838
    Thanks
    15,266
    Thanked 14,432 Times in 12,044 Posts
    Groans
    18,546
    Groaned 1,699 Times in 1,647 Posts
    Blog Entries
    6

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    Referring to the protesters, not the extremists. That is beyond dispute at this point.
    Looks like the liberal left is promoting the idea that the liberal protesters WEREN'T very fine people.

    SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.


  15. #10 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    49,883
    Thanks
    14,463
    Thanked 32,101 Times in 21,165 Posts
    Groans
    6
    Groaned 1,307 Times in 1,235 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Because it's all they have and they're preaching to a congregation that want to believe them.
    Doesn’t say much about their congregation.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

  16. The Following User Says Thank You to Darth Omar For This Post:

    USFREEDOM911 (08-12-2019)

  17. #11 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Posts
    1,551
    Thanks
    188
    Thanked 337 Times in 272 Posts
    Groans
    29
    Groaned 117 Times in 113 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    Here is Beto blatantly lying again (i.e., being a Democrat) to perpetuate this fabricated "very fine people" myth that the left made up to justify deliberately falsely smearing President Trump as a racist: "Two years ago, neo-Nazis marched in Charlottesville—and killed a woman named Heather Heyer. This violence has metastasized from Pittsburgh to El Paso; and the violence will continue until we defeat this hatred and the man endorsing these “very fine people” from the Oval Office."

    Let's review Charlottesville:

    FACT: Trump made three statements over two days about three different groups of people (legitimate protesters opposed to the left's idiotic war on monuments, liberal extremists, and white power groups). It was perfectly clear from the beginning that he rightly blamed both extremist groups for the violence and praised the legitimate protesters. Even CNN admitted that at the time (before inventing the false narrative liberals now cling to and mindlessly parrot):

    "Trump said there were some "very bad people" on both sides, but that there was some who came out to protest the removal of Robert E. Lee's statue who were "fine people.""

    For the liberals who can't bring themselves to stop lying about this, here are the actual quotes...

    Trump: "As I said on -- remember, Saturday -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America. And then it went on from there. Now, here’s the thing -- Okay, good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. Now, are we going to take down his statue? "So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. As I said on -- remember, Saturday -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America."

    And what was he referring to that he said on that Saturday? Direct quote:

    “Racism is evil — and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

    So again, liberals have been caught manufacturing yet another outrageously false narrative to smear someone who got in the way of Democrat power, for doing literally nothing wrong. Again, liberals are maniacal bullies, fascists, and tyrants who do absolutely monstrous things to innocent people all the time, and this is just one of many appalling lies they've sold to the American people to destroy lives and retaliate against dissent.
    One side of the "very fine people",were chanting antisemitic Nazi chants,and ran over a girl.

  18. The Following User Says Thank You to Judy Johnstone For This Post:

    Guno צְבִי (08-12-2019)

  19. #12 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Posts
    14,506
    Thanks
    2,892
    Thanked 9,834 Times in 6,110 Posts
    Groans
    422
    Groaned 710 Times in 658 Posts
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default

    Troll fails again.

  20. The Following User Says Thank You to Jade Dragon For This Post:

    Trumpet (08-13-2019)

  21. #13 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    49,883
    Thanks
    14,463
    Thanked 32,101 Times in 21,165 Posts
    Groans
    6
    Groaned 1,307 Times in 1,235 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by New NosaM View Post
    One side of the "very fine people",were chanting antisemitic Nazi chants,and ran over a girl.
    I bet you’re one of the deacons in the congregation lol.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

  22. The Following User Says Thank You to Darth Omar For This Post:

    USFREEDOM911 (08-12-2019)

  23. #14 | Top
    Join Date
    Feb 2019
    Posts
    1,441
    Thanks
    1,915
    Thanked 784 Times in 512 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 179 Times in 168 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by New NosaM View Post
    One side of the "very fine people",were chanting antisemitic Nazi chants,and ran over a girl.
    That doesn't count though to them. They are going by alternate facts as they were told.



  24. The Following User Says Thank You to John Barron For This Post:

    Trumpet (08-13-2019)

  25. #15 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Posts
    1,551
    Thanks
    188
    Thanked 337 Times in 272 Posts
    Groans
    29
    Groaned 117 Times in 113 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I bet you’re one of the deacons in the congregation lol.
    Higher up

Similar Threads

  1. The Left's Enduring Charlottesville Lie
    By Terri4Trump in forum General Politics Forum
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 09-02-2020, 05:35 AM
  2. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 05-04-2019, 05:01 AM
  3. One of his very fine people
    By Guno צְבִי in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 04-28-2019, 01:40 PM
  4. Left is fine with death threats towards kids
    By volsrock in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 01-22-2019, 07:20 PM
  5. “You have people who are very fine people on both sides,”
    By Jarod in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 267
    Last Post: 08-18-2017, 05:05 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •