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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Tucker View Post
    The truest definition of Fascism is an economy that has the illusion of private ownership with extremely heavy Govt regulations. In effect the Govt has control of the means of production while maintaining a false free market.

    A true free market or Laissez-faire economy is the best when it comes to the efficient delivery of goods and services to the people in the society. The more the Govt gets involved the more mucked up it gets. Look at Venezuela they can't even put basic staples of food in the stores. People there have eaten all the Dogs and Cats from the streets and raid the Zoo's looking for something to eat.

    In the US I live near a small city in the Mid West. I can go to no less than 5 grocery stores, Kroger, Wal-Mart-Miejer-Aldi-FreshThyme and get just about any fresh vegetable I want. I can choose between 20 different kinds of bread, dozens of brands and types of milk, every meat that is common, chicken, pork, beef, 5-6 different kinds of fish, and shell fish. I can walk down the rows and see 50 different vegetables in cans and jars. Drinks from soft drinks to alcohol and not just one choice or 2 as in the Communist/Socialist countries. 5 stores with just about anything I want. How many choices do the people in Venezuela have?

    And nothing has to be in "season" for me to get it! Our economy makes it possible for me to have fresh strawberries in the winter. The USA is the closest thing to a free market there is. But the freaks like Pocahauntus Warren and Comrad Sanders want to flip all that on its' head. There is not a single industry that they don't want to control. As if these two clowns who have never held a private sector job or managed a lemon aid stand can micro manage the economy! They are truly what Alexis de Tocqueville called Masterminds.

    If you haven't read Democracy in America by de Tocqueville I highly recommend it, also pick up a copy of Liberty and Tyranny by the Great One, Mark R. Levin.
    The type of market you're talking about is what they have in all countries that have Social Democracy. None of the Democrats running for president want to take away the free market.
    And really, we heard all of this doom-saying about Socialism and Fascism when Obama was running for president. He became president, he made some regulations to help the working-class, fixed the economy, and we still have our free market and our democracy. We didn't become Fascist, the government didn't take away all the guns, and we still have freedom of speech.

    Venezuela didn't have Social Democracy, but it's a bad example anyway, because it was doing well before America got involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The type of market you're talking about is what they have in all countries that have Social Democracy. None of the Democrats running for president want to take away the free market.
    And really, we heard all of this doom-saying about Socialism and Fascism when Obama was running for president. He became president, he made some regulations to help the working-class, fixed the economy, and we still have our free market and our democracy. We didn't become Fascist, the government didn't take away all the guns, and we still have freedom of speech.

    Venezuela didn't have Social Democracy, but it's a bad example anyway, because it was doing well before America got involved.
    You know there is a reason they are called "Progressives" it's not because they love Progress. It is that their programs are designed to take more and more freedom away from the people in a "Progressive" manner.

    Obamacare was designed to fail. That way the progs could come in and demand a state health care system. A single payer system, then they will nationalize the entire healthcare industry. All Dr, Nurses, hospitals, clinics, will all be employees of the federal govt. Then they will take over the medical device and drug industry, because we can have them "profiteering" now can we comrad.

    If you think that Warren and Sanders are not communists you're nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Tucker View Post
    You know there is a reason they are called "Progressives" it's not because they love Progress. It is that their programs are designed to take more and more freedom away from the people in a "Progressive" manner.
    But that never actually happens. The freest countries in the world are all countries that you'd call "progressive."

    Obamacare was designed to fail. That way the progs could come in and demand a state health care system. A single payer system, then they will nationalize the entire healthcare industry. All Dr, Nurses, hospitals, clinics, will all be employees of the federal govt. Then they will take over the medical device and drug industry, because we can have them "profiteering" now can we comrad.
    That doesn't make sense. If Obamacare failed, then it would be more of a reason to have less government in healthcare, not more.
    And in Europe, they still have private doctors, the government just helps make it affordable.

    If you think that Warren and Sanders are not communists you're nuts.
    How are they Communists? They don't want collective ownership. How exactly are you defining Communism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The type of market you're talking about is what they have in all countries that have Social Democracy. None of the Democrats running for president want to take away the free market.
    LIE and LAME. Their agenda will destroy all markets. What do you think Free education, Free healthcare and guaranteed minimum income mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    And really, we heard all of this doom-saying about Socialism and Fascism when Obama was running for president. He became president, he made some regulations to help the working-class, fixed the economy, and we still have our free market and our democracy. We didn't become Fascist, the government didn't take away all the guns, and we still have freedom of speech.
    Yes, and we ended up in a economic malaise and worst recovery in the history of the Republic. Idiots like Obama and the FAKE media told everyone get used to it, it's the new economy. Trump proved them all wrong in ONE year.

    The only people who loved Obamunism were losers on the left and RICH FAT CATS on Wall Street.

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Venezuela didn't have Social Democracy, but it's a bad example anyway, because it was doing well before America got involved.
    More bullshit from the bullshit pontificator. Venezuela is a disaster because it's leaders bought into the Socialist dogma morons here spread.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    But that never actually happens. The freest countries in the world are all countries that you'd call "progressive."



    That doesn't make sense. If Obamacare failed, then it would be more of a reason to have less government in healthcare, not more.
    And in Europe, they still have private doctors, the government just helps make it affordable.




    How are they Communists? They don't want collective ownership. How exactly are you defining Communism?
    First of all the most free country in the world is the USA. Second to the bold that's not the way the progressive left works, they would say, "See Obama did his best but the American Healthcare system is too broken to be in the hands of the private sector. We need a Govt take over."

    Sanders took his honeymoon in the USSR. Warren is clearly a communist and if you need me to explain it you're too blind to see it even if I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Tucker View Post
    First of all the most free country in the world is the USA.
    I disagree, but I will say that America is one of the most free countries in the world. And by global standards, America is very liberal. Definitely one of the most liberal countries in the world.

    Second to the bold that's not the way the progressive left works, they would say, "See Obama did his best but the American Healthcare system is too broken to be in the hands of the private sector. We need a Govt take over."
    Which Democrats are saying that? From what I've seen, some want medicaid for those who want it, others want medicaid for all, but even the latter don't want to eliminate private doctors.

    Sanders took his honeymoon in the USSR. Warren is clearly a communist and if you need me to explain it you're too blind to see it even if I did.
    Sanders visiting the USSR doesn't mean he agrees with how the country was being run. I've visited China, that doesn't mean I like their dictatorship.
    If you put forth a claim, like Warren is a Communist, then you should have the guts to defend that claim, or admit you misspoke.

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    Hmmm. When all is said and done, I am a proud member of The Great Northern Socialist Horde, happily residing in southwestern Canuckistan, aka Weedtopia

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    Trump has only had 164 lobbyists in government positions Trump railed against lobbyists in government positions promising he would not allow it. He has buried us in lobbyists getting access to the inside. Trump lies like no president in history. He does it because he knows whatever he says, no matter how absurd and dishonest, will be accepted as fact and repeated as such by his uninformed followers. https://www.opensecrets.org/trump/lobbyists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Tucker View Post
    The number of these freaks running for President is getting bigger. But the thing that makes it so funny is they call themselves "Democratic Socialists." This is like Jumbo Shrimp it's an oxymoron. With the emphasis on "Moron."

    You have to be brain dead to espouse these "ideas." First of all there is nothing new in Socialism. And there is nothing "democratic" about Socialism either. It is in fact a contradiction in terms. For those of you educated in the public schools let me define that for you. It means that one term contradicts or means the opposite of the other.

    Socialism takes away choice and opportunity, it requires your compliance with their idea's. It uses force to compel you to do what they say you must. There is nothing about the individual. No liberty, no freedom, no deviation from the States edicts.

    Consider what the great French Philosopher Alexis de Tocqueville said about Socialism.



    While I disagree that the USA is a "democracy" our Republic is not comparable with the ideas of Socialism. It is a known fact that Socialism leads to first a "Soft Tyranny" or Soft Despotism as de Tocqueville called it. Consider this quote next.
    Socialism is the destroyer of economies and nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terri4Trump View Post
    Socialism is the destroyer of economies and nations.
    100 million deaths from Socialism are not enough for Sanders and Warren.

    http://www.spider-and-the-fly.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilith View Post
    Hmmm. When all is said and done, I am a proud member of The Great Northern Socialist Horde, happily residing in southwestern Canuckistan, aka Weedtopia
    Canada is not a socialist country and you are no socialist either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The type of market you're talking about is what they have in all countries that have Social Democracy. None of the Democrats running for president want to take away the free market.
    And really, we heard all of this doom-saying about Socialism and Fascism when Obama was running for president. He became president, he made some regulations to help the working-class, fixed the economy, and we still have our free market and our democracy. We didn't become Fascist, the government didn't take away all the guns, and we still have freedom of speech.

    Venezuela didn't have Social Democracy, but it's a bad example anyway, because it was doing well before America got involved.
    I'm going to address this again. Fact is that Sanders and Warren and that cunt AOC all point to places like Denmark and Sweden as great "Socialist" success stories. But they are not Socialists, neither is Canada. The fact is that Sanders does not want to make the USA into a Social Democracy. He wants a version of the USSR, call it the USSA, Union of Soviet States of America. I'll remind you again that Bernie Sanders went to the USSR on his honeymoon. He was led around to their little Potemkin Villages and came back beaming about how wonderful Socialism was in the USSR.

    Listen to this idiot going on and own about how great it was.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Tucker View Post
    I'm going to address this again. Fact is that Sanders and Warren and that cunt AOC all point to places like Denmark and Sweden as great "Socialist" success stories. But they are not Socialists, neither is Canada.
    Technically you're right. Those countries have Social Democracy, they don't have Socialism. You can blame Fox News for the misunderstanding. They called Obama a Socialist for eight years, so now people see Social Democracy as another form of Socialism. But whatever, it's just semantics. Words and terms change with the times, today the word "Socialism" now includes Social Democracy for lots of people.

    The point is that Sanders, Warren, and the Squad don't want to take away the free market or our democracy. So nothing to worry about.

    The fact is that Sanders does not want to make the USA into a Social Democracy. He wants a version of the USSR, call it the USSA, Union of Soviet States of America. I'll remind you again that Bernie Sanders went to the USSR on his honeymoon. He was led around to their little Potemkin Villages and came back beaming about how wonderful Socialism was in the USSR.

    Listen to this idiot going on and own about how great it was.

    So something a lot of Westerners don't know is that the Soviet Union wasn't actually Marxist the entire time. As things got worse, and faith in Communism began dying, the Soviets became more Capitalist. It wasn't that the Berlin Wall came down and then the Eastern Bloc went from Communist to Capitalist overnight. It was a slow process. So with all that being said, Bernie Sanders went to the USSR in the eighties. By that time, the country was already on the verge of being a Social Democracy. This was the time of "Glasnost" when the Soviet Union was becoming less repressive and more open to working with America.

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    I'm not worried about it at all because Trump will destroy that communistic faggot! But most likely the Dim's won't nominate Bernie the Red they will go with Sleepy Joe and he will get the ass whipping of his life.

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    Socialism is slavery.
    Ape lives matter. Stop putting them in zoos. Boycott businesses that don't hire apes.

    Then answered all the Jews, and said, Jesus' blood be on us, and on our children. So be it.
    Jews want to turn America into an atheistic, amoral, socialist farmyard.

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