Pentagon blames Trump for resurgence of ISIS

[Althea]

I made a study of radical Islam shortly after 9/11.

And?

[Darth Omar]

In less than 5 minutes, you should be able to tell us why only a moron would make such a claim.

We keep waiting for you do to it lol.

To say ‘Obama created ISIS’ is a manner of speaking—most of us get. It’s more precise to say Obama *enabled* ISIS to take over much of Iraq and pretty much commit wholesale genocide on Christians, other minority religions and even their fellow Muslims who didn’t accept their perverse ‘doctrine’.

See, that’s just off the top of my head. I don’t need Google.

[Althea]

We keep waiting for you do to it lol.

To say ‘Obama created ISIS’ is a manner of speaking—most of us get. It’s more precise to say Obama *enabled* ISIS to take over much of Iraq and pretty much commit wholesale genocide on Christians, other minority religions and even their fellow Muslims who didn’t accept their perverse ‘doctrine’.

See, that’s just off the top of my head. I don’t need Google.

See that? Even you are smarter than Sailor. You don't believe Obama created ISIS, but he does.

Let's view ISIS as cancer. Are you saying that the doctor created the cancer if he/she cannot cure it, or is it more about the patient?

[Darth Omar]

See that? Even you are smarter than Sailor. You don't believe Obama created ISIS, but he does.

Let's view ISIS as cancer. Are you saying that the doctor created the cancer if he/she cannot cure it, or is it more about the patient?

Well, if you think Sailor meant Obama *literally* created ISIS, I’m not sure what to say lol.

It’s rhetoric. It’s like saying ‘look at the mess Obama made in Iraq’. Obviously, Obama didn’t fund ISIS or help train them but his policy decisions *enabled* ISIS to set up their caliphate.

[Althea]

Well, if you think Sailor meant Obama *literally* created ISIS, I’m not sure what to say lol.

It’s rhetoric. It’s like saying ‘look at the mess Obama made in Iraq’. Obviously, Obama didn’t fund ISIS or help train them but his policy decisions *enabled* ISIS to set up their caliphate.

Really? You think Sailor is just posting nonsense because he's a troll who still isn't comfortable with his sexuality? (constant references to his challengers being gay).

What did you learn about our status of forces agreement when you were engulfed in your study about terrorism?

At what point did ISIS become such a killing machine, and who was responsible for their rapid advances in recruiting?

[Darth Omar]

Really? You think Sailor is just posting nonsense because he's a troll who still isn't comfortable with his sexuality? (constant references to his challengers being gay).

What did you learn about our status of arms agreement when you were engulfed in your study about terrorism?

At what point did ISIS become such a killing machine, and who was responsible for their rapid advances in recruiting?

Are you trying to say Bush created ISIS lol?

I’ve debated the SOFA arrangement till I’m blue in the face. I’m pretty sure you can’t educate me on radical Islam.

[Althea]

Are you trying to say Bush created ISIS lol?

I’ve debated the SOFA arrangement till I’m blue in the face. I’m pretty sure you can’t educate me on radical Islam.

And still, you blame Obama for ISIS. Go figure

[Darth Omar]

And still, you blame Obama for ISIS. Go figure

I blame ISIS for ISIS.

But it’s undeniable that Obama’s policy decisions enabled ISIS to inflict their carnage on the region. I can accept that he was determined to pull out of Iraq. I fault him less for that than for literally watching them waltz into Iraq from Syria.

‘Junior varsity’ and all that.

[Althea]

I blame ISIS for ISIS.

But it’s undeniable that Obama’s policy decisions enabled ISIS to inflict their carnage on the region. I can accept that he was determined to pull out of Iraq. I fault him less for that than for literally watching them waltz into Iraq from Syria.

‘Junior varsity’ and all that.

Sure. The pace at which they became a killing machine was not expected by Obama (read...his intel. agencies). The question that you should be interested in is 'what changed ISIS from a tiny tumor to a metastatic cancer?' It was well on it's way long before Obama became POTUS.

What was the catalyst that created an atmosphere that increased recruiting, and fine tuned the methods that were employed during their acts of terror?

[Guno צְבִי]

By the Jesus. You are more limpwristed than normal tonight. That link is CNN interviewing Obama himself. He even admits it. Of course, some NY backwoods liberal hick knows more right? LMAO!

says someone who floats around on the good ship lollipop blowing your ship mates

[PoliTalker]

Hello archives,

"A scathing new Pentagon report blames Trump for the return of ISIS in Syria and Iraq"

"A report from the Pentagon inspector general found that President Donald Trump's decision to rapidly pull troops out of Syria and divert attention from diplomacy in Iraq has inadvertently aided the Islamic State's regrouping in Syria and Iraq."

"The Department of Defense's quarterly report to Congress on the effectiveness of the US Operation Inherent Resolve mission said that "ISIS continued its transition from a territory-holding force to an insurgency in Syria, and it intensified its insurgency in Iraq" — even though Trump said ISIS was defeated and the caliphate quashed"

"The Trump administration's decision to focus its attention on Iran reduced its capacity to effectively counter ISIS in Iraq and Syria"

https://www.businessinsider.com/pent...rce=reddit.com

Seems Trump's "America First" policy, whatever that hell that is besides a cliche for the gym rallies, is imploding all over the world. We've lost strong relationships with traditional allies, watched the Far East fragment, allowed China to extend spheres of influence worldwide, authoritarian leaders to pretty much do what they want unchecked, and as we've seen here, even managed to screw up apparent success

But as long as Trump keeps insulting and demonizing the people and ideas the Trumpkins are afraid of, it's a "greater America," regardless of the realities

Oh, we're not worried about the real stuff. We've got fake 'invaders' at the southern border to distract the attention of the conned.

[Darth Omar]

Sure. The pace at which they became a killing machine was not expected by Obama (read...his intel. agencies). The question that you should be interested in is 'what changed ISIS from a tiny tumor to a metastatic cancer?' It was well on it's way long before Obama became POTUS.

What was the catalyst that created an atmosphere that increased recruiting, and fine tuned the methods that were employed during their acts of terror?

The ‘tumor’ is radical Islam.

That religious ideology is endemic in the region and it will ‘metastasize’ when given the opportunity. Bush shouldn’t have toppled Saddam because it left a vacuum in the region. Like you said, intelligence and all that. And we should leave Assad alone for the same reason.

The least-bad option in Afghanistan is to play whack a mole with the Islamists. When they reconstitute after we withdraw, hit them. Hard. That was the mistake Obama made [ok, his intelligence people] after withdrawing from Iraq.

[Darth Omar]

Hello archives,



Oh, we're not worried about the real stuff. We've got fake 'invaders' at the southern border to distract the attention of the conned.

Actually, I wonder if our military resources wouldn’t be better spent closer to home than in Afghanistan.

Currently, there’s a nationwide opioid epidemic that’s directly tied to the Mexican cartels. The mere threat of the most powerful military force on the planet might ‘give them pause’.

Just a thought.

[Cancel 2020.2]

Nice post, Darth.

[Althea]

The ‘tumor’ is radical Islam.

That religious ideology is endemic in the region and it will ‘metastasize’ when given the opportunity. Bush shouldn’t have toppled Saddam because it left a vacuum in the region. Like you said, intelligence and all that. And we should leave Assad alone for the same reason.

The least-bad option in Afghanistan is to play whack a mole with the Islamists. When they reconstitute after we withdraw, hit them. Hard. That was the mistake Obama made [ok, his intelligence people] after withdrawing from Iraq.

It left a vacuum in the region, but it also forced his military elite to flee. Where did they land, and what was the outcome?

Agree about Syria. If we stopped pretending that we give a shit about the citizens living under the rule of tyrants, we could let the region stabilize after the rival factions fight to the death.

Every year that passes, we need Mid East oil less and less. It's time to change our view of the region. Arab Spring was a pipe dream that simply cannot happen in the Mid East.