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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    It's tricky when the definition keeps changing.

    What traits does someone or something need to have to be considered conservative?

    If it's small government, then countries like Switzerland are conservative. If it's traditional values, then countries like Saudi Arabia are conservative.
    If I wanted to know what modern liberalism is then I would use the definition as published by its largest group of adherents. I suggest that you do the same for conservatism: conservative.org. It's really not that difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    If I wanted to know what modern liberalism is then I would use the definition as published by its largest group of adherents. I suggest that you do the same for conservatism: conservative.org. It's really not that difficult.
    If you're a Conservative, then surely you can sum up what Conservatism is for me here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    If you're a Conservative, then surely you can sum up what Conservatism is for me here.
    The Constitution of the United States is the best political charter yet created by men for governing themselves. The Constitution is designed to guarantee the free exercise of the inherent rights of the individual through strictly limiting the power of government.

    We reaffirm our belief in the Declaration of Independence, and in particular the belief that our inherent rights are endowed by the Creator. We further believe that our liberties can remain secure only if government is so limited that it cannot infringe upon those rights.

    We believe that capitalism is the only economic system of our time that is compatible with political liberty. It has not only brought a higher standard of living to a greater number of people than any other economic system in the history of mankind; more important, it has been a decisive instrument in preserving freedom through maintaining private control of economic power and thus limiting the power of government.

    We believe that collectivism and capitalism are incompatible, and that when government competes with capitalism, it jeopardizes the natural economic growth of our society and the well-being and freedom of the citizenry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    The Constitution of the United States is the best political charter yet created by men for governing themselves. The Constitution is designed to guarantee the free exercise of the inherent rights of the individual through strictly limiting the power of government.

    We reaffirm our belief in the Declaration of Independence, and in particular the belief that our inherent rights are endowed by the Creator. We further believe that our liberties can remain secure only if government is so limited that it cannot infringe upon those rights.

    We believe that capitalism is the only economic system of our time that is compatible with political liberty. It has not only brought a higher standard of living to a greater number of people than any other economic system in the history of mankind; more important, it has been a decisive instrument in preserving freedom through maintaining private control of economic power and thus limiting the power of government.

    We believe that collectivism and capitalism are incompatible, and that when government competes with capitalism, it jeopardizes the natural economic growth of our society and the well-being and freedom of the citizenry.
    So by this definition, the most conservative countries are America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and European countries except for Eastern Europe.

    I guess that makes Bernie Sanders a true Conservative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    So by this definition, the most conservative countries are America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and European countries except for Eastern Europe.

    I guess that makes Bernie Sanders a true Conservative.
    You list is a bit off. I consider the most conservative countries to be USA, Israel, Australia, South Korea, and Austria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    You list is a bit off. I consider the most conservative countries to be USA, Israel, Australia, South Korea, and Austria.
    Even so, those countries are run by "Progressives." This means that if you want to keep America conservative, vote Democrat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Even so, those countries are run by "Progressives." This means that if you want to keep America conservative, vote Democrat.
    No that means that they could be far more conservative, and if you want them to turn into socialist hellholes, then vote Democrat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    No that means that they could be far more conservative, and if you want them to turn into socialist hellholes, then vote Democrat.
    But these so-called "Socialist" countries have freer markets and more civil liberties than the countries run by Traditionalists.
    The countries you listed are, what Fox News would call, Radical Progressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    But these so-called "Socialist" countries have freer markets and more civil liberties than the countries run by Traditionalists.
    The countries you listed are, what Fox News would call, Radical Progressive.
    You just don't get it. I don't care about definitions made up by opposing sides. It's not much better than name-calling in a school yard altercation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    You just don't get it. I don't care about definitions made up by opposing sides. It's not much better than name-calling in a school yard altercation.
    What I'm saying is that the liberal or progressive or whatever you want to call them policies are the ones that create the kind of societies you like. So-called Conservatives always cause bigger government and less freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    What I'm saying is that the liberal or progressive or whatever you want to call them policies are the ones that create the kind of societies you like. So-called Conservatives always cause bigger government and less freedom.
    There you go again confusing definitions of words. 'Round and 'round we go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    There you go again confusing definitions of words. 'Round and 'round we go...
    Call them whatever you want. Whatever you want to call the Democrats, their policies are the ones that cause smaller government and more freedom.

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