Earl (08-09-2019)
America is badly in need of true moral leadership. President Trump has shown how divisive and hateful we can become when we abandon our morals.
Badly Needed Moral Leadership: Marianne Williamson: End The $26 Billion In Subsidies To Fossil Fuel Industry. Tax The Rich. Take Care Of People.
"First we need to pass a law—and most likely a constitutional amendment as well—for public funding of federal campaigns. (huge applause) Right now, the influence of corporate money on our governmental policy is the cancer underlying all other cancers. Then, we need a massive infusion of economic opportunity and hope into the lives of average Americans. We will get there by repealing the 2017, $2 trillion dollar tax cut that gave 83 cents of every dollar to the richest Americans and corporations. Then you stop subsidies such as—why did we pay $26 billion in subsidies to fossil fuel companies last year? Martin Luther King said: "If you give it to rich people they call it a subsidy. If you give it to poor people they call it a hand-out." Then, I agree with others that there should be a 3% tax on billionaires' assets and 2% on people with $50 million and more.
You do things like that, Trevor, and you've got some cash on hand. And then we do what we should be doing. We take care of people." (Another huge applause)
Marianne Williamson Is Guest Of Trever Noah (Start it at 0:36 to skip the Exxon Ad)
Noah says that Williamson's ideas are called dangerous and crazy. She responds:
"It is dangerous and crazy to NOT discuss the corrosive influence of big money on every aspect of our society."
"The average American is woefully under educated about racism in the United States."
"Slaves were promised 40 acres and a mule. They were freed but never got them. It is time to pay up to their qualified descendants. This is a moral issue. We paid between 20 and 22 thousand dollars to every Japanese American interred during World War II. Germany paid billions to Jews who survived the holocaust. It is time for the United States to make amends for our unmet obligations which have taken such a heavy toll on our society."
Noah: "Donald Trump didn't win by talking about the details, the nitty gritty. He won by talking about the idea of America. Is talking about the idea of America what you think people need to hear?"
Williamson: "It's the idea of leadership. It's the idea of what I think we need in a leader. Franklin Roosevelt said the administrative aspect of the office is secondary. He said the primary role of the Presidency is MORAL LEADERSHIP."
Well, THAT's pretty apparent from looking at the lack of moral leadership we have NOW.
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Earl (08-09-2019)
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Yawn.
Who is Marianne Williamson?
Thread fail.
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The problem with federal funding is in who is permitted to get it. Do you really think the machine that made the two party system will not ensure it protects it's own ?
She is right that money in politics is the problem though.
Just suppose we eliminated the money from politics ?
Media would publish platforms so people could compare with their own judgement how candidated soeak to their views.
No more tonnage of junk mail.
No more tsunami of ads in every medium.
Yes, it would put a dent in media sales.
No, it would not prevent pols from being purchased any more that federal funding would, just change how the cash flows.
And finally yes, it would require pols kill their machine which can never happen.
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.
Hello Celticguy,
Not at all. The powerful system which rewards the rich and holds the poor back will fight hard to maintain the status quo.
But not an insurmountable one.
I agree that measure would not do it alone. It needs to be part of a vast multi-faceted approach to end the legalized corruption of our government.
Actually, I believe it can happen. But it will surely never happen as long as people assume it can't. It is the belief that is the biggest hurdle. As soon as we understand that we can fix our nation, the details of actually doing it are nothing but a chore.
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Earl (08-10-2019)
Trumpet (08-09-2019)
The onteresting thing i find when i talk about this is people upset about freedom of speech. They see handing over money as speech.
Lets face it... government was invented as a simplification of feudal lordship. Too many petty wars and too hard to exoand the footprint. Cooperative lordship is so much easier to milk the masses.
It isn't happening.
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.
Earl (08-10-2019)
Hello Celticguy,
Money and speech are two different concepts. I think we do ourselves a disservice when we equate the two. Just as much disservice as claiming a corporation is a person.
No, I am not facing that. Feudal lordship is not what the Constitution says.
Most people in this country think there is far too much influence of big money in our government and our politics.
Not in the current political climate. But as we are learning, climate changes. And we are also learning that we can affect that.
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Earl (08-10-2019)
Trumpet (08-09-2019)
Fuel doesn't come from fossils.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
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