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Thread: Did Russian Interference Affect the 2016 Election Results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    "TONS of instances from 2018" proves my point--there is plenty of cheating from both sides. NC does not affect what the other 1100 cases show. It is just a deflection on your party to ignore the facts about voter fraud.
    Right, but because your source doesn't identify party affiliation, how can you argue it's equal on both sides?

    And why doesn't it include NC-09? You haven't given a good explanation; instead, you've redefined the parameters of what your source includes TWICE.
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    Remember Rosenstein: No Vote Counts or Election Results Were Changed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I said campaign ads were aimed at the small group of undecided voters. We don't know whether those are successful or not.
    We know they're successful because Trump is the President.

    WTF?


    ou are assuming the success of any campaign material comes from the Russians.
    If you read the Mueller Report, which you refuse to do, you would see the extent which Russia disseminated its propaganda, and the extent to which Americans were duped into disseminating it for them.

    Facebook added a tool to its interface where you could see if you shared any Russian propaganda.

    Mueller details the propaganda in his report.

    There is no mystery as to who generated it.

    We know who generated it. We know who shared it.

    Facebook even has a tool where you can check yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post





    If you read the Mueller Report,






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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    But before, you said your source included "indictments".

    That's what you said.

    Now, if you're going to admit that was a lie from before, that's fine, but don't wiggle around the parameters just because you can't keep yourself straight from post to post.

    Just admit you posted a biased link you didn't do due diligence on because you're lazy.

    But the database doesn't include party affiliation, and you didn't do any research by your own admission, so how do you know it presents an equal bothsides case?
    If all 1100 cases are Republican cheating it is hard to claim it is biased.

    It all 1100 cases are Democratic cheating it proves the point that Democrats cheat.

    That was the only point I was making before you got into minutia about primaries, indictments, bias, poll worker vs. campaign worker, and all the other trivia that has nothing to do with the simple fact you are unwilling to admit. Face it, Democrats were giving away drugs and stuff to get people to vote. They are just like Republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Because you have no clue it was Russian propaganda. It could be the Republican Party, all the groups on Facebook posting memes, Facebook posts from friends, numerous conservative sources, PACs, etc. etc.
    We know what the propaganda was, where it came from, who disseminated it because Mueller investigated it.

    You can read it for yourself in Volume I.

    So maybe instead of arguing with me, you should get off your fat ass and read Mueller's Report so you don't sound like a dumbass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    omg stop whining already, no one but you cares, she lost nutter, and she's not coming back, no do-overs in presidential elections
    When Trump loses next year, you're going to pretend you had nothing to do with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Read carefully. The purpose of propaganda is to persuade---it is not necessarily effective.
    You said it was for "a small percentage of voters".

    Well, a small percentage of voters was all it took to flip three states, and we know that Russia was targeting voters in those states because Mueller investigated it.

    You are like the kid who is giving a book report without even reading the book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    We know they're successful because Trump is the President.

    WTF?.
    Terrible logic. Somebody always wins the presidency and many things influence their decision to vote.

    Showing Russian disseminated a lot of campaign material is not the same as proving it changed any votes or enough to change the election. Some self-financed candidates have spent a huge amount of money to influence the elections and did poorly. So putting campaign ads out there does not buy the election. Trump knew how to get a lot of free media coverage and spent half of what Clinton spent.

    Did the Russian effort to sow discord influence your decision that the election was fraudulent? Or, did you come to that decision all by yourself? Maybe American voters decided how to vote all by themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The main issue is that you have no clue whether Russian efforts changed the vote of one person.
    But you said propaganda works on a "small percentage of voters".

    It was a small percentage of voters that made the difference across PA, MI, and WI, and we know from Mueller's report that Russia targeted voters in PA, MI, and WI with their propaganda.
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