The article linked in the OP was full of examples of "racism going the other way". Any race of person can be a racist... White, Black, Pacific Islander, you name it... Is your definition of racism "white people putting down people of color", or is it something else? Can you provide the precise definition you are using? I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind your labeling of someone as a 'racist'...
Discrimination is not due to racism (in most cases). Any sort of 'age limit/requirement' or 'height limit/requirement' that is placed on something is a form of discrimination. Is that a bad thing? I'd say not. Sure, people who don't meet those requirements don't feel good at the time, but it is ultimately for their own good (safety). Plus, people need to feel bad sometimes because it helps them to distinguish good from bad. It helps them to gain knowledge of good and evil. Have I enjoyed my worst experiences?? Heck no... I'm still trying to break bad habits and mental blocks/effects which all stem from those bad experiences. But I am ultimately thankful for them, because they have given me insight into some true evils and have helped me to gain knowledge of good and evil.
Is 'equal' always a good thing? Would a 2yr old being able to ride in a a roller coaster at Six Flags just like a typical 20 year old be a good thing? Would allowing six 400+ pound fat asses to be able to ride inside of a small boat just like anybody half their weight (or more) be a good thing? Equality, as in "we are all humans, no matter our differing genetic traits", is a good thing. Equality, as I have described above, is not a good thing.
Some victims wish to not inflict what they've experienced onto others... Other victims do.
No, that's what you have done by your redefinition of the term. My definition of the term is very specific and consistent, due to its grounding in logic.
You can't call out what you can't consistently and specifically define.
Nothing of the sort. It is simply making use of the same logically grounded definition. It is calling a racist whoever commits the compositional error fallacy (using people as the class and a genetic trait as the property). If the "caller" forms a racist model and then projects that model onto the person they are "calling out", then the "caller" is the racist, since the racist model belongs to and was constructed by the "caller". The "caller" is committing the racism fallacy.
Wishing to enact laws/policies that those places have (such as socialism) is trying to turn America into those places...
I'm just trying to pinpoint down your definition of 'racism', since here you added in an ignorance factor which wasn't present in your original definition of "whites put[ting] down people of color".
It wasn't without cause. It is right in line with my post specifically explaining what racism is and why it is racism. Racism is a specific form of the compositional error fallacy. If the person screaming "you're a fucking racist!" is the person who is constructing the racist model (committing that specific form of the compositional error fallacy), then it is the screamer who is the racist, not the one who he is attempting to project his own racist model onto. The other person simply wasn't being racist to begin with.
Appeal to Popularity Fallacy. False Authority Fallacy.
Seems could reasonably expect computer generated denials reminiscent of those WW II Nazi war criminals these Catholics selective memories are. Leave it to their super egos of a not so master race lynching enforcement for a stolen vote from Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate cops where the accused doesn't even vote & hasn't since first 2 absentee voting ballots were stolen at university; but that doesn't stop their Christiananality pedophilia business from lynching the accused for 9/11 & then for the assassination of JFK in the same breath; being those Islamophobia pedophiles regardless of the accused not even aware of the Catholic Church "serve the Pope or die" cross is higher than the US flag national religion propaganda in being at the National Archives & SCOTUS the time of their megalomaniacal killing white nationalism wallowing.
Christian Complicity With Racism
While many Christian traditions and other religions have varied and valuable narratives, Protestants, especially evangelicals, have written some of the most well-known narratives of racism in the United States. Other religious groups, such as white Catholics, have certainly contributed to racism, but the narrative that unfolds in the following pages focuses on Protestant churches. Methodists, Baptists, and Presbyterians all have a central, sometimes repressive, place in the story of race in America. No matter which faith tradition or denomination is at the forefront of discussion, racism extends across sectarian lines.
In light of these definitions, it is accurate to say that many white people have been complicit with racism. Although there have been notable exceptions, and racial progress in this country could not have happened without allies across the color line, white people have historically had the power to construct a social caste system based on skin color, a system that placed people of African descent at the bottom.
White men and women have used tools like money, politics, and terrorism to consolidate their power and protect their comfort at the expense of black people. Christians participated in this system of white supremacy—a concept that identifies white people and white culture as normal and superior
https://www.evangelicalsforsocialact...licity-racism/
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Hello gfm7175,
Nice try at putting words in my mouth but I did not define racism. Recall, this all began when I agreed with most of the nation that President Trump is a racist, and that it was a racist thing for him to say the 4 Congresswomen of color should go back where they came. That's my view. You disagree. You also have a penchant for giving Trump the benefit of the doubt. Your are in the minority on that. There is no point in playing semantics. I don't have a personal definition of racism. This definition from Webster is what I operate on: "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."
I think that happens in the movies more than in real life. Take Emma Gonzalez, for instance. Look at Gabby Giffords. Both of these women were victimized by senseless shootings. Have they advocated for or tried to exact revenge? No. Revenge is immature. They began movements to try to make sure that what happened to them does not happen to other people. Revenge might make for a good movie plot, but mature real life people understand that hurting others does not help them in any way. It just spreads more pain. It doesn't lessen it or make it go away.
I am sticking with the Webster definition.
That's the new right definition. We, the caring people of the world do not accept that.
That's a failed attempt to hold the 4 Congresswomen of color to words that you wrote, but they never actually said. I am properly rejecting that.
I never claimed that I have a unique definition of racism. The one in the dictionary suits me just fine. I would suggest just sticking with that, but I know that doesn't suit the new right penchant for redefining racism. I understand the right is quite famous for rewriting history, so it is not surprising that it is attempting to redefine racism. Anything but admit the President is a racist. btw, Trump is also a liar, a conman, a cheat, a misogynist, and a demagogue. He is very immature and has a short attention span. Trump is a sociopath. And he doesn't read books. He is not very good at vetting people or stories, either. Basically, he is a terrible President. And he is probably guilty of crimes. He probably would have been charged already if he were not President. You are free to support him in any way you like. That is your right. I oppose him and I am going to level any criticism I think applies. He is a racist.
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How unfortunate for Catholic Church megalomaniacal to the victors go the spoils of writing history as far too late to whitewash it's mass murder in USA history. Looks like it'll be about time for another suicidal crusade of these super ego homicidal sociopsychopathic too dang lily brilliant white national religion farce with their cross conditioned way beyond therapy obsessive - compulsive avoidance - acceptance of anything other than the cross is higher than the flag godvernment of death.
Race slavery is like cancer - it spreads to the whole body given time. That's why American religion is so sick and why so may are still playing their grotesque gun games, whatever the cost in blood.
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