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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    can we do anything BEFORE they actually kill someone?.....or do we have to wait until they've killed at least one?.....
    do you think the founders would have taken the guns from someone BEFORE they committed a crime?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    it's not an "ideology" - it's normative regulations.
    This is an extreme situation, and what the shooters had in common was mental derangement

    they are not a threat to others without guns
    What they have in common is white male racist supremacy

    WHen you lump this to include other races It takes the racist white male off the hook

    Guns will be removed from everyone but them

    Y’all tired of the race card and we’re tired of the mental illiness card
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    do you think the founders would have taken the guns from someone BEFORE they committed a crime?
    Should every single living American citizen have the right to own a gun? No exceptions?
    No matter who they are or where they live?
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Should every single living American citizen have the right to own a gun? No exceptions?
    No matter who they are or where they live?
    without a doubt, this is America. its called the 2nd Amendment. If you can't be trusted with a gun, you can't be trusted in public.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    without a doubt, this is America. its called the 2nd Amendment. If you can't be trusted with a gun, you can't be trusted in public.
    Even a person living in a mental hospital?
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Even a person living in a mental hospital?
    Good question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    I would like to see the concept expanded so that an individual who:

    a) Has amassed an arsenal,

    and

    b) Has expressed white supremacy views either online or in person,

    -has their guns taken away.
    And that, is the strongest argument *against* Red Flag laws.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Even a person living in a mental hospital?
    I see we need to be extremely specific with some people...........so let me rephrase.

    ANY FREE AMERICAN

    is that better for you?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Pres. Donald Trump called for a national Red Flag law on Monday morning after two weekend mass shootings. A similar law, or or Extreme Risk Protective Order, was signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis earlier this year.

    @LindseyGrahamSC
    says he's made a deal with @SenBlumenthal
    to create a federal grant program to encourage states to adopt 'red flag' laws.

    Hopes to introduce legislation soon and says Trump "seems very supportive" of the idea after conversation this morning.

    ~~

    Looks like the plan to offer states carrots to pass red flag laws is coming together. Red flag laws let courts temporarily take weapons from people deemed threats to themselves/others.
    Trump's rhetoric of hate and racism has incited mass shooting, and now, that has come back to bite him in the ass, and he knows that public opinion is not on his side. So now he is putting on this charade to try to nudge public opinion back on his side. I for one am not buying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    show us ONE single piece of documentation that shows the founders were talking about government regulated militias
    I'll show you as soon as you show us where the Constitution says We The People regulated militias!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    so you want to see someone who has never committed a crime have his property and liberty taken away? and you wonder why we consider liberalism a mental disease
    Liberal fascism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    hey slave, where in the constitution does it give the federal government any authority to make marijuana illegal? that's right, it doesn't, so all of those people who have been affected by their possession of a weed were affected because of slaves like you who believe that the federal government can do any damned thing it wants to.

    so you are actually the dumb one here, but don't take my word for it, read the fucking constitution
    Neighbor, I don't mind reading the Constitution.

    But, it would take 6 weeks to read the US Code books!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    I'll show you as soon as you show us where the Constitution says We The People regulated militias!
    have you not been paying attention on this forum? let alone in the internet world? I could paste over a dozen comments from the founders and court cases that specifically refer to it as an individual right
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Neighbor, I don't mind reading the Constitution.

    But, it would take 6 weeks to read the US Code books!

    when the law is so voluminous that it's impossible to read and know, we have tyranny. also, any law that violates the constitution is null and void......unless you're going to tell us that the supreme court gets to tell us whats constitutional and whats not
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    Trump's rhetoric of hate and racism has incited mass shooting, and now, that has come back to bite him in the ass, and he knows that public opinion is not on his side. So now he is putting on this charade to try to nudge public opinion back on his side. I for one am not buying it.
    Mass shootings increased in 2011. Who incited it before then or all the shootings before 2011?

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