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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    The mental health professional in the employ of VA Tech admitted in interviews that he had the asian lunatic as a patient and knew he was a danger to himself and others. But since he never reported it as required by law, he cleared the background check and bought the guns.
    And he went unprosecuted.
    This is not unique.
    Then the prosecutor, and the State he works for, is liable for the murders and can be tried as such. The State government is charged with protecting the citizens of that State. It can be charged with dereliction of duty. The prosecutor himself is now essentially an accessory to the crimes of the mental health professional, and in turn, is a contributing factor to the murders.

    That is one way to look at it.

    The other, more correct way is this:
    The background check itself is illegal. Nothing should have prevented the asian lunatic from obtaining a gun. Leaving a lunatic that is a danger to himself and others on the streets intentionally is a crime in and of itself which the mental health professional should be tried for. The prosecutor that failed to uphold the law and failed to try for involuntary commitment is a contributing factor to the murders just as much as the mental health professional himself is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    situational constitutionality does not negate rights, you fuckwit shitstain. watching you try to discuss the constitution is laughable, at best, especially since you have no citations from the founders that you haven't twisted like a flag in the wind.
    Top three forum stupid posts ever.

    Vehicles cannot be necessary in a modern society.

    Smarterthanyou wrote the Constitution.

    Gun regulations are not in the interest of public safety.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    nobody gets gagged before going in to the theater. DUI checkpoints violate your 4th Amendment rights, speeding laws are victimless crimes, and i don't know what you're trying to do with trespass laws. If a law can be abused, why is it still a law? the founders didn't want that. Now, when a person is found to have had his rights violated by the abuse of these laws, what do you consider an appropriate recompense?


    ^The idiot doesn’t know that DUI checkpoints DO NOT violate 4th Amendment rights.

    Thinks he wrote the Constitution, so he knows what the founders “didn’t want”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    falling back to SCOTUS, a remarkable political establishment known for siding with majority sentiment instead of the constitution, is a last refuge of tyranny. It's a declaration of your belief that the people are just too stupid to know whats constitutional and whats not.........admittedly a position not without its merits...........but still reckless
    You’re a perfect example of people being too stupid to know what’s constitutional and what’s not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Almost everything about this post is wrong. In the language of the time "well regulated" meant top notch and highly proficient. Other words that changed meaning over time: awesome was not equivalent to "very good" back then, nor was "incredible"... there's tons of them, in this case it unfortunately makes ignorant people who don't understand that some meanings of words in language change over time think it means what they want it to mean rather than what it clearly states.

    The first part is the reason the right exists, the second part is the right. At the time there was no standing army and the government was able to call up a militia, the citizens (every time "The People" is used in the constitution it means citizens) have a right to arms because the government has an army...

    Written in today's language and today's meaning it would read more like this: The government has a highly trained and proficient standing army, which is necessary to its ability to function, therefore the right of the people to maintain arms that can be used to defend against that army shall not be infringed. Shall not is legalese for "not in any way"...

    You have to remember that the founders had quite literally just finished fighting a war against a government that tried to take away their weapons. This right exists and was enumerated in the constitution to ensure that this would not happen again.
    Hey thanks, but you are off on a tangent with your idea that you think the 2nd Amendment was written with the bat-shit-crazy idea that our fore-fathers wanted to keep it's citizens armed- JUST IN CASE THEY WANTED TO TURN THEM ON IT"S OWN GOVERNMENT.

    Do you really believe that kind of bat-shit-craziness?

    FUCK NO DUDE!

    Our Forefathers were very concerned that the King Of England could return and start the war all over again, and they did not trust the Kings of Spain or France from attacking us at any time either- SO THEY WANTED TO INSURE THAT THEIR CITIZENS REMAIN ARMED SO THAT THEY COULD ASSIST THE CONTINENTAL ARMY TO FIGHT FOREIGN ENEMIES!

    This was never about arming citizens so they could overthrow our own Continental Army at their own discretion!

    I mean really dude- that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Hey thanks, but you are off on a tangent with your idea that you think the 2nd Amendment was written with the bat-shit-crazy idea that our fore-fathers wanted to keep it's citizens armed- JUST IN CASE THEY WANTED TO TURN THEM ON IT"S OWN GOVERNMENT.

    Do you really believe that kind of bat-shit-craziness?

    FUCK NO DUDE!

    Our Forefathers were very concerned that the King Of England could return and start the war all over again, and they did not trust the Kings of Spain or France from attacking us at any time either- SO THEY WANTED TO INSURE THAT THEIR CITIZENS REMAIN ARMED SO THAT THEY COULD ASSIST THE CONTINENTAL ARMY!

    This was never about arming citizens so they could overthrow our own Continental Army at their own discretion!

    I mean really dude- that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! LOL!
    you were there? amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Eye View Post
    It's not a trial you stupid mother fucker.
    Yes it is, Dog Breath.
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    You sure got the party lie down about what "Well regulated" used to mean.... Claiming "Well Regulated" used to mean "top notch" is still very funny to me every time I hear if, it it was "top notch" its because it was "well regulated".
    It is the absolute height of ignorance or stupidity to believe that the founders would use 'well regulated' to mean government controlled after they had just won independence from their government that tried to confiscate their arms
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    The mental health professional in the employ of VA Tech admitted in interviews that he had the asian lunatic as a patient and knew he was a danger to himself and others. But since he never reported it as required by law, he cleared the background check and bought the guns.
    And he went unprosecuted.
    This is not unique.
    was that professional prosecuted?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    i'm a constitutional idiot stuck on exact wordings, and shit i won't let go because i'm a fuckstick
    yes, we've come to realize that you're a moron
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Hey thanks, but you are off on a tangent with your idea that you think the 2nd Amendment was written with the bat-shit-crazy idea that our fore-fathers wanted to keep it's citizens armed- JUST IN CASE THEY WANTED TO TURN THEM ON IT"S OWN GOVERNMENT.

    Do you really believe that kind of bat-shit-craziness?

    FUCK NO DUDE!

    Our Forefathers were very concerned that the King Of England could return and start the war all over again, and they did not trust the Kings of Spain or France from attacking us at any time either- SO THEY WANTED TO INSURE THAT THEIR CITIZENS REMAIN ARMED SO THAT THEY COULD ASSIST THE CONTINENTAL ARMY TO FIGHT FOREIGN ENEMIES!

    This was never about arming citizens so they could overthrow our own Continental Army at their own discretion!

    I mean really dude- that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! LOL!
    Enemies foreign or domestic, meathead. You don't get to make it up as you go along.
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    The idiot doesn’t know that DUI checkpoints DO NOT violate 4th Amendment rights.

    Thinks he wrote the Constitution, so he knows what the founders “didn’t want”.
    its hilarious watching you double down on your stupidity, because if you knew anything about the law or the courts, you'd have actually read the decision where Rehnquist specifically states that DUI checkpoints violate the 4th Amendment
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    I'm a perfect example of people being too stupid to know what’s constitutional and what’s not.
    yes, you are, but you continue to embarrass yourself by claiming that you do
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    Hey thanks, but you are off on a tangent with your idea that you think the 2nd Amendment was written with the bat-shit-crazy idea that our fore-fathers wanted to keep it's citizens armed- JUST IN CASE THEY WANTED TO TURN THEM ON IT"S OWN GOVERNMENT.

    Do you really believe that kind of bat-shit-craziness?

    FUCK NO DUDE!

    Our Forefathers were very concerned that the King Of England could return and start the war all over again, and they did not trust the Kings of Spain or France from attacking us at any time either- SO THEY WANTED TO INSURE THAT THEIR CITIZENS REMAIN ARMED SO THAT THEY COULD ASSIST THE CONTINENTAL ARMY TO FIGHT FOREIGN ENEMIES!

    This was never about arming citizens so they could overthrow our own Continental Army at their own discretion!

    I mean really dude- that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! LOL!
    can you provide citations from any of the founding fathers, framers of the constitution, or the debate minutes to verify your claim?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    yes, we've come to realize that you're a moron
    Why do you reply to your own posts, idiot? You need a competency hearing so we can remove your guns.

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